G10 Using G10 on a Fanuc Type Control

G10 Using G10 on a Fanuc Type Control

G10

I am always amazed that so many companies still don’t use G10 in their CNC programs. If you know you know.

I must admit I fuckin hate a lot of the things that young people say like “can I get a Latte”. (Get behind this fuckin counter and make it yoursef if you want to “get it”).

Anyway I kind of like “If you know you know”

No G10… Is this you?

I am sure you have your reasons which I will accept. But if your reason is that you don’t understand it then that’s just not good enough.

So you make a part, it’s all setup and you need to break it down.

If you can fix the work holding in such a way that you can reload it in exactly the same place then you need G10.

Let me explain, watch this video to see how single point location works.

G10 No need to spend loads of money.

You could just bolt a sub plate to your machine table so that vices and chucks etc can have dowels to locate them.

But the main idea is that you can relocate your work holding in exactly the same place every time.

G10
Using G10 on a Fanuc Type Control

This is your work offset page on a Fanuc control.

G10

These figures are written in by hand or by automatic setting.

If you had written this line in your program.

G90 G10 L2 P1 X-440.500 Y-265.200 Z-443.00

They would have been written in automatically when you ran the program.

So the work offset page could have any values in G54 but as soon as you run your program this G10 command will replace them with its preset values.

Make Sure Your in Absolute

Try not to forget the G90 (Absolute) because you may accidentally be in G91 (Incremental). What would then happen is it would add these numbers to what is already in the work offset. Oh dear me.

In G90 it will always replace them.

You can write to G54 G55 G56 G57 G58 or G59 just by changing the P number.

G90 G10 L2 P1 X-140.600 Y-265.923 Z-400.00 (G54)

G90 G10 L2 P2 X-125.500 Y-236.865 Z-313.865 (G55)

G90 G10 L2 P3 X-800.500 Y-563.200 Z-125.00 (G56)

G90 G10 L2 P4 X-440.500 Y-265.200 Z-169.369 (G57)

G90 G10 L2 P5 X-440.500 Y-265.200 Z-123.568 (G58)

G90 G10 L2 P6 X-410.500 Y-235.200 Z-443.00 (G59)

The code above would setup all six work offsets.

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Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

This article is about CNC Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

(G Code CNC Programming)

It’s not a competition G99 vs G98. sometimes you need G98 sometimes you need G99.

CNC Canned Cycles Using G98 G99, a canned cycle is usually one line of code for example to drill a hole. This one line of code tells the machine all it needs to know about drilling my holes.

G98 G99

  •  Depth
  •  Feedrate.
  •  Point to rapid to before drilling
  •  Point to rapid back to after drilling

Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

G Code Programming Haas Fanuc (ISO) Mazak

What happens then is each time we give the machine a new position it will drill one of these holes. Each hole will be identical unless we change one of the parameters. So if on one hole we put a different Z depth that hole and all subsequent holes will be to the new depth.

CNC Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

So all in all it’s a really easy way to drill holes. You tell it what you want and then each time you give a position you get a hole. Then when you get sick of drilling holes you type in G80.

Machine says OK he don’t want anymore holes so from now on when the machine moves to a position nothing happens.

Mitsubishi Carbide

There are loads of Canned Cycles I can’t be bothered to tell you about them all cos I’m going out tonight otherwise I would explain them. Anyway they all do different stuff like.

  • G84 Tapping
  • G73 High speed Peck Drilling
  • G83 Deep hole Drilling
  • G81 Drilling

They all work in the same way as each other but with variations.

Now the video at the bottom of the page is about CNC Canned Cycles Using G98 G99 and that’s in all the drilling and tapping type cycles.

Ok what does it do? You may well ask, G99 vs G98

I know for a fact that some of you, and I won’t mention names, put this on the line with the canned cycle but you ain’t got a clue what it does. Maybe you don’t even put it in. Maybe you don’t care.
Anyway it’s simple.

  1. You rapid to an initial point
  2. You rapid down close to the hole (this is the R point)
  3. You feed down to depth (Z Depth)
  4. Then you rapid out to either the initial point (1) or the R point (2)

Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

Now if you program G99 it returns to the R point .
If you program G98 it returns to the initial point (that means the first one)

Ok why on earth would I want that?

Well……. if you made the first point say 50mm above the job (About 2 inches) and the rapid point was 1mm above the job (.040”).
You could drill all your holes in G99 and the drill would each time return to 1mm (.040″) above the part. You get to a clamp and you put G98 and it jumps to 50mm (2”) above the part and misses the clamp. Change back to G99 and it stays down returning to 1mm (0.040) above the part.

Get it? So you eliminate wasted moves. Good init.

Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

CNC Canned Cycles Using G98 G99

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G81 Drilling Example (Canned Cycle)

G81 Drilling Example

The G81 is the most commonly used canned cycle it simply drills a hole and retracts.

All other canned cycles are similar to this but with a few extra bells and whistles.

G81 Drilling Example this simple part has four M12 holes drilled countersunk and tapped.

The datum is the centre of the part so the holes positions are.

X55. Y55.
X-55. Y55.
X-55. Y-55.
X55. Y-55.

G81 Drilling Example

G81 Drilling Program Example

Here is the CNC code

G81 Program Example

The machine first moves to X-55. Y-55. and rapids the Z axis to 3mm above the part.

It then rapids the Z axis down to 1mm above the part R1.

The G81 Cycle instructs it to drill a hole 6mm deep (Z-6.) at a feed of 200mm per minute (F200.)

When the hole is done it rapids back to the initial point (Z3.) This was in the line

This is because of the G98.

If it were G99 it would return to 1mm above the job (R1.)

See explanation of G98 and G99

Once the cycle is active each time it sees a position it repeats the drilling process.

When the G80 is programmed it no longer drills holes.

Now watch the video to see it all in action (G81 Drilling Example)

Haas G81

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G Code Groups What Use Are They?

Category : Fanuc Haas

G Code Groups, every G code is in a group and I remember looking at G codes for years thinking why on earth do they do that?

I thought it was just to satisfy the geeks, it gave them more bullshit to talk about and confuse the shit out of me.

Anyway now I’m all grown up, I know exactly why G Codes are in groups.

The good news is today I am going to tell you why and….. I am going to give you a practical example.

(Be sure to read on for a free cheese on toast recipe)

Here is a list of G codes and the groups that they are in

G Code
G Code List with Groups

Hass G Code Groups do vary a little.

Now I know this is boring but please try to keep focused it gets exciting soon honestly.

If you are loosing the will to live already then off you go, this video is amazing.

I know it’s only two of us now but I will carry on. I wrote this article a bit back about macro for the over 18’s.

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G01 G00 Basic CNC Programming ( G01 not GO1 )

G01 not GO1 Back to Basic CNC Programming

The letter O is only used for a programme number and a GOTO statement on a Fanuc Control. It’s important not to get it mixed up with the number Zero. So we should really say G zero one ( G01 not GO1 ).

So remember it’s G01 not GO1 (Zero not letter O)

G01 not GO1

A good solution is to miss it out where possible G1 not G01 etc.

This is part of a series of articles designed to cover basic CNC Programming.

When I first learnt to programme, before the First World War, I still remember how daunting the thick yellow Fanuc Manuals were. The Japanese were learning to speak English and we were learning to speak G Code.

Fanuc Manuals

Fanuc manuals are just like the yellow pages. A note here for you young people who might not know what yellow pages are (no it’s not like someone pissed on the photocopier)

Long before Google we had these thick yellow books and we used them to find stuff like if your mam needed to get the outside toilet unblocked or something.

None of this stuff was in the Fanuc manuals but you could easily get them mixed up cos they looked very similar.

I can honestly say when I was learning Basic CNC Programming I read the old 6M Fanuc manual from cover to cover. The Macro bit was just like another planet to me. Some things I had to read over and over again to understand.

Some of it was so badly written you kind of had to guess what they meant.

In the Beginning

Every now and then I used to go right back to the beginning and read the basic stuff again. Believe me, every time I would find something I didn’t know, mind you I didn’t know much then anyway.

Try it later and if it doesn’t work I’ll give you your money back.

Okay enough of this bullshit and verbiage let’s talk about G codes.

Geometric Code, that’s what the G stands for.

Useless information but anyway, now I’ve said it. Don’t tell your mates down the pub because you will probably bore them shitless.

I often begin my training courses by saying “you only need to know four G codes to programme a CNC, it really is that easy”

G0 G1 G2 G3

(Please smart arses don’t contact me.)

What that means is that you can get round any shape with straight lines G1 and circles G2 and G3. Oh and you need to quickly get to the part so use G0 rapid.

Yes and another note. You don’t need leading zeros.

G00 can be G0 (Never GO as in letter O)
G01 can be G1 (Never GO1 as in letter O)
G02 can be G2 (Never GO1 as in Letter O)
G03 can be G3 (Never GO1 as in letter O)

Read this if you want to know more.

Lets Get On with It

G00 or G0 commands a rapid move. That means the axis will be flat out. Maximum foot to the floor, shit off a stick as we say in the Midlands.

A common mistake with rapid moves is to assume that the axis will all move in a straight line like a bullet from a gun.

Not true. Because each axis is flat out one axis may arrive before the other. The rapid on your X axis could be slower than your Z. Anyway you get what I mean.

Why do I need to know this?

Easy because if something is in the way then you might hit it. That is if you assume the movement is a straight line.

Now lets see.

Move down in Z

G0 Z5.

G01 not GO1

Then a nice straight line G0 X130. Z-30.

G01 not GO1

But meanwhile in the real world

G01 not GO1

It’s obvious really.

Just think for a moment:

If both X and Z rapid motors ran at the same speed. Then each axis will move the same amount until one reaches its destination.

Looks like this.

G01 not GO1

Z has 30mm to move in total so they will both move 30mm. This will make a 45 degree line.

Ah but X is not finished yet. X will carry on and finish its move in a straight line.

G01 not GO1

If something is in the path of your rapid move you may need to programme your axis separately to be sure not to hit anything.

G00 X130. Z-30.

Could be:

G00 X130. ;
Z-30.;

G01 not GO1

Please don’t repeat the G00 (you know it will piss me off).

Now G01 ( G01 not GO1  )

G01 is a linear feed. It means feed in a straight line. Just like stretching a piece of string between two points. It can be just one axis or two simultaneous axis. You can even programme X Y and Z all in one line of code.

So this is what really separates a CNC from a manual machine. Remember how hard it was to machine an angle on a manual milling machine? Or a taper on a lathe.

You do?

Well on a CNC Machine we just programme the end point. It will then machine a straight line from it’s current position to the programmed point

If your machine was at X50. Y0 and you programmed a line

G01 X55. Y-200. ;

You would get an angle.

Ok what’s wrong in this picture?

Just to see if you are not a robot?

Yes congratulations but what is wrong with the line.

G01 X55. Y-200. ;

The Feed-rate

Yes with G01 you need a feed-rate. Don’t repeat the feed-rate, you only need another feed-rate when you want to change it.

G01 X55. Y-200. F100. ;

Don’t forget you can programme X Y and Z together and it will still be a straight line just like you tied a piece of string between the start and end point.

F100. means feed at 100mm per minute.

CNC Turning

On a manual lathe you would have to set up a compound slide to just machine an angle.

Basic CNC Programming

Mmm very skillful and I’m sure it’s loads of fun.

On a CNC Lathe this is just one line of code and some Basic CNC Programming!!

What About 3 Axis Rapid?

Yes you can programme 3 axis together in rapid move. It’s definitely the quickest way to get to the part.

G0 X50. Y20. Z3.

I would definitely advise using it but, and there always is one, just be real careful nothing is in the way. Don’t blame me I’ll just say I never  met you.

Oh just one more thing as Columbo would say.

You could use a very high feed instead of a rapid move. That way you really would guarantee a straight line. I’ve never done this but it just came to me in a flash.

So there you have it G0 is rapid ( never GO letter O).

G1 is linear feed, remember G01 not GO1 (Not letter O)

Thank you for reading my article ( Basic CNC Programming G01 not GO1 )

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