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Fanuc Display – Relative Position

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Fanuc Display (Relative Position) is used only by the operator.

Fanuc Display

You can reset Fanuc Display (Relative Position) just like you would on a manual machine with a DRO. So use it for setting or even measurements. One thing to remember is it will not retain it’s position when you turn the machine off. The control in the video is a Fanuc 18i on a big vertical lathe but all other Fanuc controls are similar.

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G71 and G70 Use to Rough and Finish Turn

New video about the G71 roughing cycle on a Haas or a Fanuc control, also covers the G70 finishing cycle.

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G71 Haas (Single Line)

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G71 is sometimes known as a canned cycle when in fact it is a multi repetitive cycle. The G70 cycle goes with it and can pick up the same lines to finish.

The N numbers are important as the cycle uses these as the points of reference to jump to.

G71 cycle interprets the shape between these two N numbers and then breaks up the shape for roughing.

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CNC Sub Program

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CNC Sub Program, all CNC machines will have some form of sub programs.

 This article deals with G code (ISO) type programming but most of the features talked about will be available in some form on any CNC control. 

A CNC sub program is a branch from your main program into another program.

After completing this, your control will return to the main program and continue where it left off.

It’s like the branches of a tree.

Sub Program 

Probably the most common use of a CNC Sub Program would be for a tool change position. You could have a sub program which took the machine to a position for tool change. Your machine probably does this anyway but it’s hidden.

The advantage of this is that you could use it for any program and you don’t have to keep writing it. It is going to be very reliable because you know you never touched it. (Honest governor). 

You could use a sub-program for a set of hole positions, call it out once to spot drill and again to drill and again to tap. Just use it as many times as you want.Got to be good for the environment too.

CNC Sub Programme

 

Some controls have internal sub programs Haas and Yasnac as well as Heidenhain and Siemens have this facility.

You can do it on a certain Fanuc controls but it is an option.

It means you can stuff these at the end of your program and jump into them the same way as you would an external one. 

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Why would I want to do that you say?

Easier to manage is the quick answer.

You know when you save your main program there are no pesky sub programs lurking that you forgot to save. They are all built into your main program.

Normally you would call your sub-program once only and you don’t need to tell it “oh I want this once” it says “come on mate I know that I’m not stupid.

But you can call it several times and if you get into incremental programming, and I hope you do, you will definitely find a need for this.

Sometimes with sub-programs it’s what you don’t put in that matters. What I mean is if your milling and you put the feed in the sub-program you are stuck with it. If it’s not there then you can state the feed externally and use a different one every time.

On Machines Like The BMC 800 from Toshiba

Tosnuc 888

This machine has the Tosnuc 888 control.

It uses G72 followed by the dollar sign, oh and for the repeat command it uses L but don’t forget the comma.

G72 $MYPROGRAM , L2

Yes Tosnuc uses anything for a program name up to eight characters. So that it doesn’t get confused by the L you have to put in a comma.

Tosnuc 888

By the way on this control (Tosnuc 888) you don’t use M99 at the end of your sub program you just use M30 and it works correctly.

Don’t try this on your Fanuc or Haas control as M30 means stop and rewind and that’s what it will do. Then it will just sit laughing at you.

Ok now you can watch the video.

CNC Milling sub programming examples.

 

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Tool Nose Radius Compensation

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CNC lathe tool nose radius compensation, I think that sometimes in life we get off to a bad start with things. I know when I was at school I was convinced that I was useless at French, Physics and all sports.

I just got off to a bad start.

Getting stabbed with a javelin in the foot did not enthuse me with regards to sporting activities.

Tool Nose Radius Compenasation

 

Oh and two of my close friends wanted to see if passing a high voltage though my body would give me special strengths a bit like Frankenstein. Needless to say it didn’t work and to this day I can’t watch those films.

So when you have a bad experience with something it just puts you off.

Maybe when you first tried to use G41 and G42 you got loads of ALARMS. Not to mention that nasty rash that you needed a three month course of antibiotics to clear.

We often find ways around our lack of knowledge or whatever.

I know when I was in France my mate always spoke English in a kind of French accent thinking they would know what he was on about. He would put an “a” at the end of each word.

He would say “doa youa knowa thea timea” and they would say “Va te faire foutre”

Here is the video (DON’T YOU DARE WATCH IT YET)

Sorry about the long intro but I have a record to sell as well.

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Anyway, Tool Nose Radius Compensation.

People find ways of programming without tool nose radius compensation.

It surprises me when people don’t use it and it is usually because they don’t understand the very simple rules.

Rules CNC Lathe tool nose radius Compensation

The daftest one being, don’t ask it to do the impossible.

So if you are machining a diameter of say 40mm and you move to a bigger diameter 40.5

If your tip radius is 0.8 the machine would alarms out.

You swear at the machine but unfortunately it’s you that’s being rather silly. You can’t fit a .8 radius in that gap.

TNRComp

The same thing applies if you machine around a radius that is smaller than the tip radius.

The other common fault is knowing when and where to apply it. Your shape needs to be one continuous path that does not go back on itself.

No reverse gear.

Tool Nose Radius Compensation

I always say “use it and get rid of it”.

You can’t just move on to another shape.

You need to cancel and then re apply (a bit like lipstick)

If you don’t use compensation your parts are not really correct because you are frigging the figures.

CNC Lathe Tool Nose Radius Compensation

The other big problem is if you need to change the tip radius and you didn’t use tool nose radius compensation you would have to change the program.

Your program and part will simply be wrong without tool nose radius compensation.

If your CAD system is not outputting tool nose radius compensation or cutter compensation in milling then you need to look at your post processor.

If you can’t do it get your software provider to help. Believe me they can all output this if they are set up correctly.

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G10 Using G10 on a Fanuc Type Control

G10

I am always amazed that so many companies still don’t use G10 in their CNC programs.

No G10… Is this you?

I am sure you have your reasons which I will accept. But if your reason is that you don’t understand it then that’s just not good enough.

So you make a part, it’s all setup and you need to break it down.

If you can fix the work holding in such a way that you can reload it in exactly the same place then you need G10.

Let me explain, watch this video to see how single point location works.

G10 No need to spend loads of money.

You could just bolt a sub plate to your machine table so that vices and chucks etc can have dowels to locate them.

But the main idea is that you can relocate your work holding in exactly the same place every time.

G10
Using G10 on a Fanuc Type Control

This is your work offset page on a Fanuc control.

G10

These figures are written in by hand or by automatic setting.

If you had written this line in your program.

G90 G10 L2 P1 X-440.500 Y-265.200 Z-443.00

They would have been written in automatically when you ran the program.

So the work offset page could have any values in G54 but as soon as you run your program this G10 command will replace them with its preset values.

Make Sure Your in Absolute

Try not to forget the G90 (Absolute) because you may accidentally be in G91 (Incremental). What would then happen is it would add these numbers to what is already in the work offset. Oh dear me.

In G90 it will always replace them.

You can write to G54 G55 G56 G57 G58 or G59 just by changing the P number.

G90 G10 L2 P1 X-140.600 Y-265.923 Z-400.00 (G54)

G90 G10 L2 P2 X-125.500 Y-236.865 Z-313.865 (G55)

G90 G10 L2 P3 X-800.500 Y-563.200 Z-125.00 (G56)

G90 G10 L2 P4 X-440.500 Y-265.200 Z-169.369 (G57)

G90 G10 L2 P5 X-440.500 Y-265.200 Z-123.568 (G58)

G90 G10 L2 P6 X-410.500 Y-235.200 Z-443.00 (G59)

The code above would setup all six work offsets.

What about the L2 you ask?

What’s that for?

L2 means you are writing to the work offsets (G54- G59)

But you can also write to the tool length offsets in which case it would be

G10 L10 P1 R200. (200 length into tool 1)

G10 L12 P1 R10.(10mm radius into tool 1)

WARNING THIS IS NOT THE SAME ON ALL FANUC CONTROLS

Conclusion

G10 means your datum positions are saved with your CNC program.

The vice or fixture needs to be in exactly the same place when you next set it up.

You can use special single point location fixturing or just make a sub plate.

Haas G10

 


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