Hyundai Wia L 300LC CNC Lathe

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Very solid nice big Hyundai Wia CNC two axis lathe with Guide i, what more could you want?

Hyundai Wia

You know like when you have been on holiday eating loads of fancy food and you get home and all you fancy is a nice simple chips n egg?

Staple diet of my childhood. Anyway that is what this machine is. It’s the chips n egg of the CNC Lathe world.

Having just worked on a Nomura sliding head that’s as complicated as a nuclear reactor (are they complicated, I don’t know?) Anyway it just seems nice to come back to some nice simple stuff.

This is a no messing sturdy beast, none of your namby pamby driven tool shit.

No Y axis, and no stupid sub spindle to mess about with. G12.1 forget it. C axis no way.

Happy days, easy training job simple two axis CNC Lathe with a Fanuc i series control. Oh and it’s got Guide i too. I’m gonna love this.

Hyundai Wia With Guide i

Seem to get loads of these lately an I’m kind of getting to like them mmm maybe not. There’s loads of good stuff mixed in with some bad shit.

Sorry I’m rambling.

Guide i Did You Know?

Well I certainly didn’t. Anyway it’s got this button called alter.

Fanuc Guide i

Always wondered what it did so today after some deep breathing exercises I plucked up the courage to press it. Put on a mask, gloves and full PPE.

Safety shoes, check.
Incontinence briefs, check.
Crash helmet, check.

Bingo I pressed it.

Guess what it did…….

Nothing, jack shit, fuck all.

Ah but wait don’t go off to some other boring stupid website with naked chicks or naked dudes. No no no.

After much deliberation me and my new bestie (James) tried every combination.

Anyway if you highlight an M code and then press the beast. Guess what it comes up with a list of all your M codes, all their meanings and you get to pick one.

Fanuc Guide i

Woopee, err, not. Well I suppose it must have a use. If you didn’t know the M code you needed I suppose it could be good.

Now I lost a good 10 minutes of my life trying to sort out what this button did and I’m not impressed.

No matter how totally bladdered my mates are at the pub tonight I wont be able to impress them with this one.

Anyway enough said, I bet someone at Fanuc got promoted after inventing this exceptional, programming aid. A close runner up to the Fanuc PROGRAM RESTART button as another contender for the “this button is fuckin useless” award 2023.

Guide i Did You Know

Honestly this one really is worth reading. When you want to call a sub-program and you are not sure what number it is this one helps.

Press  Fanuc Guide i

Then from the screen move over to subprogram.

Fanuc Guide i

This takes you into the directory and from here you can select your subprogram. It will insert this into your program complete with the M98. And if you use names for your programs then it puts it in those nice little V shaped brackets. What do you call those funny brackets by the way. Does anyone out there know?

Guide i

Names For Programs

Using names for programs is cool. When you are an old school pre-septuagenarian git like me it seems real 21st century. Saves on all those shitty four digit numbers and bracketed descriptions.

This is mine above <FACE-GUIDEI>, certainly save on typos. I recon if you get into the habit of using this it could be very useful.

Guide i

If this sub program call feature is on Trust pilot I will give it 6 out of ten or maybe 7.

So bloody shit-faced convoluted to find. I mean who the fuck would think right I’ll press this button called FIGURE I mean it’s bound to take me somewhere where I can input my sub programs straight from the folder they are in.

Enough said.

The Machine David The Machine

Oh yea, some stuff I like on this machine.

Absolute encoders, no stupid zero return. Switch it on wait a few minutes press the standby button and you are good to go.

No open and close the door shit, no rotate the turret shit no no no just switch the beast on. Lovely.

Clever that is, my tellies at home are the same, can safely say I never had to zero return any of my many 50″ tellies. One in every room by the way except for the shit-house.

No open and close the door shit, no rotate the turret shit no no no just switch the beast on. Lovely.

Gear Change

Now I knew this thing had a gearbox but I couldn’t get the thing to change gear. Well actually you don’t need to. Just select a speed in G97 and it gets the right gear. What’s all the fuss you ask? Well if you are in G96 and it’s in low gear. Imagine you are facing off a part, well it will get to 1000 revs and just stay there.

Anyway the technique is as follow

You will get low gear

G97 S500 M3
G96 S200

You will get high gear

G97 S1200 M3
G96 S200

The G97 will make the machine select the correct gear.

Hand wheel Hyundai Wia

The jog and hand wheel are the same mode just press this button.

Hyundai Wia

When an increment is selected the button will start to flash indicating that You are in hand-wheel mode.

Hyundai Wia

There is a slight delay in starting the jog mode so be patient. A couple of times I thought it wasn’t working and started playing around with other buttons.

Turret Index

Turret will only index in manual mode when the X axis is at zero return. It is probably better to use MDI as it doesn’t mind where it is. Obviously take a good look at the surroundings before pressing cycle start.

Indexing the turret is done with these buttons. Hold in the middle one and press either of the outside ones to move turret clockwise or counter-clockwise. Press and hold for continuous rotation, Top red number is station number.

Hyundai Wia

Don’t forget when you index the turret the tool is not active, the Fanuc control will only display last tool used in MDI or in  program.

Start Spindle Hyundai Wia

As with most Fanuc controlled machines you will have to set a speed in MDI before you can start the machine manually. Once the speed is set use these buttons. Press and hold central button and your direction to start spindle manually,

Hyundai Wia

If you press forward or reverse without the central button the machine will jog the axis at the programmed speed. You can also do this with the door open. lucky you.

Hyundai Wia

Rapid does not work at all with the door open.

The jog feed potentiometer will stop all movement in rapid if set to it’s lowest position, It needs just one notch to make rapid work. A little trick, you only make this mistake once. A call to some smart arsed service engineer who says “did you try moving the dial one click?”

Zero Return

Select zero return then press direction key. One press and you don’t need to keep your finger on the button, This machine has a tailstock so keep an eye out for it when referencing the Z axis,

You can set both axis going together.

I like the door locks on this machine because they release on their own, There is no button to open and close, I like that,

A Room With a View

The viewing window is a bit small but I suppose its a good safety thing when you have a big chuck spinning at 3000 RPM.

One very concerning thing is the fact that there is no safety back kick plate on the chuck pedals, This is a 2022 machine so I would have thought it would have one.

It means you can accidentally press the pedal and open the chuck!! Holy fuckin shit.

We decided to put the pedal under the bench so you couldn’t press it by accident.

Guide i Again

Every time I use guide i I find something new that I like about it. Me and Guide i are definitely in a love hate relationship.

This time I found the two things above.

Fixed Forms

I recon with some work using Fixed forms is a good quick way of programming, Given time you could get a really good library of things.

This would make program creation very quick. Multi screen editing is also good on Guide i. You can have several programs open together and switch between them when editing.

This also means no pesky background edit where you get locked in a fuckin time warp and nothing works until you find the escape button (BG END)

Graphics Graphics Sodding Graphics

Graphics are still pretty shitty, When you alter the rotation or size of the part you lose everything and have to start again.

How annoying is that. I mean I should be used to it by now.

Come on Fanuc this is 2024 not 1981. There is no speed control on the graphics either so it’s all over in a flash.

Not sure on this one can somebody explain? Some controls have a speed control on graphics and some don’t!!

Hyundai Wia Tool Measure

Tool measurement with the tool arm uses the hand-wheel to drive tool towards the probe. Never been a great fan of this way of setting tools but I suppose it’s still better than cut and measure.

You can index the turret with the arm down so beware. Jog and rapid don’t work when the arm is down so that’s good.

No lights on the probe! What no lights on the probe, that’s annoying. When you make contact with the probe the axis just stops, There is no light so you are not sure it has stopped.

It does jump to the correct offset for you and it zeros the wear, Good because not all machines do that.

Big Chuck

It is a big 12 station turret but with a large chuck therefore adjacent tools can easily cause a problem so beware.

Take a look below the tool you are using as it approaches the chuck. Better still bring em in manually just to check before running.

I know you are never supposed to have the jaws above the chuck outside but that’s difficult with hard jaws but it’s really important to watch out for this one.

Big Fanuc Guide i Screen

All men love big TV’s, why is that? I know I do.

Anyway this machine a has a big “fuck off” screen. Big screen means more keys are visible happy days.

Means you don’t have to keep using arrow keys to find butttons.

QWERTY keyboard too, What utter luxury.

Hyundai Wia Easy to Use

All in all I liked the interface on this Hyundai Wia machine, Pretty easy to get it to do most things. Not too many frustrations. Apart from the slight delay on some buttons like the jog, I’d prefer to be able to index the turret anywhere and I don’t like using the Hand-Wheel to measure tools. A light to indicate when you are touching the probe wouldn’t go a miss either.

Tool Change Position

This Hyundai Wia has G30 P2 which you can set a position in parameter99999999 and have a second Zero Return position (G30 P2 U0 w0)

Personally I wouldn’t use it. You will need loads of different tool change positions on a machine this big. Otherwise you.’ll be travelling a mile to get to small jobs.

I set it up to use local sub routines. This means I can call program 500 in any program and it can be a unique tool change position. Read this.

My tool change position in local to this program so you can change it for every job.

Hyundai Wia

 

 


Overtravel Axis Fanuc Parameter 1300

Category : Fanuc

Messing With Parameters Can Be Fatal!!!!!

Over-travel alarm, make this a thing of the past with this parameter

You first need to go to the setting screen in MDI.and put a 1 in the parameter write box.

Today we are going to change the parameter that stops the machine generating an alarm when it gets to the end of travel.

End Of Travel Alarm  Fanuc Parameter

Now I need to start by apologising to all the lovely people at Fanuc. All the years I have moaned and moaned about the fact that when you get to the end of the machine stroke on a Fanuc control you get a stupid alarm.

Actually I have been totally wrong and I offer my sincere apologies to all who have been hurt by my nasty comments about this.

If you set parameter 1300 BIT 1 (NAL) to a 1 then you do not get an alarm when you travel to the end of the machine stroke.

Fanuc Parameter 1300
Fanuc Parameter 1300

This should make it work. If it doesn’t then maybe you should call the Samaritans.

Other Parameters You may Want to Change

3203 Clear MDI Screen

3202 Unlock Program 9000 to 9999 and 8000 to 8999 to Edit

3402 G Codes that are Active When The machine is Turned On

6005 Allows the Use of Local Subroutines (Newer Control)

6050-6059  Allows you to Call a 9000 series Program with a G Code

6080-6089 Allows you to Call a 9000 series Program with An M Code

5003 Retain Geometry when you Press Reset

3291 Wear Offset requires Key to Adjust

8134 3453 allows you to use ,R and ,C (Rads and Chamfers)

That’s it away you go.

This guy has more CNC Manuals than you can shake a stick at.

Oh just one other thing before you go off and cripple your machine forever.

Do yourself a favour take a picture of the screen before you change a parameter. If you aint got a camera then you must have a piece of paper.

Even better back everything up.

Or take a screen shot.

Thanks

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Reposition Haas Machine Mid Program

Category : Haas

Reposition Haas  Mid-Program

Haas machines have the best program restart ever. (Providing you switch it on that is.)

You just move to a position in the program and press CYCLE START.

Piss easy.

Reposition Haas

But what if you want to stop a program and move the tool away to look at what you did?

Same Shit different Day

Did you ever work on a machine for years then some smart arse like me comes along and tells you something you didn’t realize it could do?

Well that happened to me the other day, except I did know but never got round to trying it. Anyway if I had said “oh I already knew that” he would have thought I was a smart arsed prick.

Needles to say I didn’t say that.

Back to Reposition Haas  Mid-Program

Well you guessed it they even thought of that.

It means you can drill a hole, move the drill away and have a good look inside and then continue with the program just like nothing ever happened.

Here We Go

First of all Press Feed Hold button.

Reposition Haas

Actually it’s not that one it’s the red one next to it, sorry but I don’t have an animated GIF for that.

Then press X, Y or Z followed by the Handle Jog button.

The control will now store the X, Y, and Z positions.

You will now see the message  “Jog Away”on the screen.

Now use your handwheel to move the tool away.

Reposition Haas

You can use other manual controls to stop spindle and coolant etc if you wish.

Do whatever you want to do.

  • Inspect the part.
  • Blow the hole out.
  • Remove your own appendix without anesthetic.

Now move the tool close to where it originally was making sure nothing is in the way for it to hit.

Now go back into memory mode.

Press Cycle Start.

Reposition Haas

The control will display the message “Jog Return”

X and Y will move back to position at 5% .

Then axis.

And bang away you go.

The program continues.

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Repeat Canned Cycle Using L and K

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Repeat Canned Cycle

Repeat Canned Cycle, here is a simple G81 canned cycle.

O001 (Drilling Programme)

T1 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200.
X60.
X70.
X80.
X90.
X100.
G80

G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

Repeat Canned Cycle

Now here is the same programme in incremental.

O001 (Drilling Programme)

T1 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200.
G91 X10.
X10.
X10.
X10.
X10.
G80 G90

G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

Both programs do the same thing now lets shorten the last one.

Repeat Canned Cycle L5 or K5

O001 (Drilling Programme Repeat Canned Cycle)

T1 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200.
G91 X10. L5
G80 G90

G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

(This would be K5 on a Fanuc control)

Now you have to admit that’s easy.

For all you “incremental deniers” come on now, this saves a lot of code.

And……

if the distance between the holes was 10.236 imagine having to add them all up.  Lets face it you couldn’t even work out the total cost of six tins of beans at 86p a tin.

Everything is so fuckin expensive these days. Have you noticed the price of vintage champagne?

Anyway that’s another argument for another time.

Repeat with No Repeat !!!

This article is about iteration. Which is just bullshit for “how many time you do it”.

No I don’t mean how many time you do “it”, grow up.

Authors Note to Himself

Must ditch some of these readers, so childish and read sexual innuendo into everything I write.

Continue if You are 18 or Over

In other word the L5 or K5 means do it 5 times.

You can also use L0 or K0 which means do it zero times (don’t do it).

” Come on Dave don’t be a twat, why tell the machine not to do something”

Right, first of all don’t call me Dave I fuckin hate it, my names David. So shut up and carry on reading.

Reasons to Not Do Something

  • You broke the tap in a hole and you want to skip it.
  • You just want the machine to remember the canned cycle but you don’t want to do the cycle yet.
  • Getting round corners without collision. Read this.
  • You can’t be arsed to get off the chair to pick up the TV remote (when your lazy boyfriend put it on the floor)
  • You want to use a sub programme

See Below

O001 (Drilling Programme)

T1 M6 ((Spot Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-5. R1. F200. L0 (Remember Cycle But Don’t Drill Yet)
M97 P500 (Go to drilling sub programme)
G80
G0 G53 Z0

T2 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H2 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200. L0
M97 P500 (Go to drilling sub programme)
G80
G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

N500 (Drilling Sub Programme)
X50. Y50.
X60.
X70.
X80.
X90.
X100.
M99

What this means is you set the canned cycle up so the control will know what you want to do. Because of the the L0 or K0 it does not actually drill a hole.

When it goes into the sub programme it’s business as usual and it drills all your holes.

All your positions are self contained in the sub programme.

Now it’s time for one of my famous, very boring stories.

Repeat Canned Cycle

Go here, this guys videos are way more interesting than this shit.

The Boring Story

Years ago when I worked at SP Engineering in Barwell. We used to make parts for knitting machines.

We made this part which was a massive plate covered in all different sized holes. Drilled tapped bored you name it. It was like that cheese that has all the holes in it. Well, not really but I paid for this picture and I want to use it.

We used to get a spot drill and just dotted the plate all over. We then put the part into inspection where they used a CMM (coordinate measuring machine) to measure all the positions of the dots.

 

 

The probe just drops neatly into the spot drilling dots.

Repeat Canned Cycle

Also because each set of holes was in a sub programme they could be reused once the positions were OK.

 

It is a useful method because once the sub programme is used you know all the positions are correct for any subsequent tools. It makes prove out much easier.

Putting any positions in the main programme would ruin the plot because you would have to check the first hole position for every tool.

Using L0 or K0 to Get Round Corners

This is a novel way to use L0 to get round the corner of a part. Not my idea I nicked it off the genius guys at Haas tip of the day.

My advise is don’t read this shit. Go to Haas Tip of the Day it’s way better. The guys are so polite and never swear.

Here Is a Nice Video In Case You Can’t Read

L0 for a Haas control K0 for a Fanuc control Repeat Canned Cycle.

Repeat Canned Cycle

 

 


Haas Search Brackets (Find Code in Brackets)

Category : Beginners Useful Stuff

Haas Search Brackets. Everyone knows I am a fan of Haas machines I can often be found in the kitchen at parties boring the ass off of everyone talking about all the exciting things that they can do.Haas Search Brackets

Most people don’t have a clue what I’m on about as most of my friends are hairdressers, taxidermists or pornstars.

Anyway today I’m going to bore you with what I consider another master stroke from Mr Haas.

Be honest have you ever wanted to search for something that is in a bracket? Admit it you have haven’t you.

It’s a bit like searching for your phone when you left it in the fridge.

O0001 (David’s CNC Programme)

T05 M06 (20mm Endmill)

G90 G00 G54 X50. 50. S1500 M03
G43 Z3. H05 M08

G81 G98 Z-20. R1. F100.
X0
Y0
G80

T06 M06 (50 mm Face mill was T07)

ETC
ETC

M30

If your answer to the above question was no then you are on the wrong website go buy a new car or something it’s way more exciting.

Anyway it’s easy. If you wanted to find the T07 in the code above, see it there hiding away in those brackets?

T06 M06 (50 mm Face mill was T07)

Haas Search Brackets Here’s How

Anyway all you need to do is type (T07) then press your lower cursor. In other words parenthesise the T07.

Just showing off to my younger readers, or just plain thick readers, parenthesise means put it in brackets.

Haas Search Brackets

Sorry about the shit picture but I’m on a very tight budget here.

How easy is that?

Authors Note

I’ve been thinking about this one and I can’t really think of where you might use it. Sorry for wasting your time.

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