Mori Seiki Training SL2500

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Mori Seiki SL2500 I worked on these machines when they were new circa 2006, yes that’s how long I’ve been doing this stuff.

These machines can be real work horses and they are very affordable now. Yes a new one would be great, but if you are like me a new one of these is worth more than your family home.

The control is Misubishi MSG 805 very similar to Fanuc except maybe easier to edit. Oh and there are quite a few extra functions.

Mori Seiki Training SL 2500

Anyway this one was loads of fun. It’s got a Y axis a sub spindle and driven tools . Both spindles can become a C axis which means you can mill both ends of your part, nice.

Like all the machines I work on you start with a few niggling things like knowing what order it wants you to press the bloody buttons.

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Like the one above you have to hold this button in whenever you want to move the machine around with the doors open, you also need the key switch in RELEASE position.Mori Seiki

The “INTERLOCK RELEASED” light above will flash as long as you satisfy both conditions.

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The button above is to open the door. This key switch is to restrict editing. With it fully left what can you do? Basically fuckall.

You can’t even use the overriders the only thing you can do is cycle start. It’s ideal if you want your grandma to operate the machine or in fact anyone over 90. Go ahead it’s completely safe.

So if you have a grandma with no Mori Seiki Training at all off you go.

Fully right and you can edit, the other two are when you want to run in MDI or program.

Do people actually fuck with these keys? Personally I’d rather just access all areas and at all times than to have to keep moving a key. Not to mention being punished every time I try and do something with the sodding thing in the wrong position.

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Train people properly is the answer.

Now I know someone who can give Mori Seiki Training.

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Manually running the spindle is a bit unusual on this machine but I did kind of grow to like it.

Avocados & Mori Seiki Training

A bit like avocados. I remember as a teenager I worked as a waiter in a posh restaurant and they had them on the menu. Now unless the chip shop did em coated in batter then I would never have heard of them.

The first person to order one from me got a traditional Dutch alcoholic beverage made from eggs, sugar, and brandy from me.

Advocat that is. I remember my grandmother having it at Christmas. She would scrape her empty glass with her index finger and lick it so as not to waste a drop of the precious liquid.

Anyway first time I tasted an avocado I thought it tasted a bit weird. It’s kind of not what you expect. Anyway I carried on eating them mainly to impress my superiority on my working class friends. Guess what, I woke up one day, I remember it as if it were yesterday, liking them, and I’ve never been the same.

Oh Yea We Were About to Turn on The Spindle

Switch to a manual mode then press the direction you want. As you increase the percentage it will be a percentage of maximum speed (4000) so 10% gives you 400 rpm. For the arithmetically challenged just read off the speed on the screen. No one is judging you it’s OK. We already knew you were stupid.

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B axis, Y axis, where the fuck are the buttons.

So random on this Mori Seiki. Why the fuck don’t Mori Seiki ask me where to put these buttons? For a small fee I’ll advise.

Right at the top of the control is the B axis.

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Now when I grow up and I make CNC machines, guess what, my revolutionary idea is.

To put all the axis buttons together you know like, in the same place. How cool would that be.

Sub-Spindle Mori Seiki Training

Programming the sub-spindle is awkward as your Z is now in the plus direction when you machine the part.

Beware it’s easy to get this wrong. It’s the same on most machines so don’t moan you need to suck it up and learn to live with it. Stop moaning it’s getting boring.

The part pickup from the sub spindle is relatively easy. My tip on this is to add loads of comments to the code especially for all those M codes. That way when it crashes at least you’ll know why.

MDI

Now you might think this is a fuss about nothing but one of my absolute old man rage type things is when you want to quickly change tools in MDI and you have to put in a fuckin EOB (end of block) or you get an alarm.

When I’m training people they often say “why is that”. My usual retort is “don’t ask me, you prick. I didn’t make this pile of shit you just bought at auction cos your boss is too mean to buy a new one”

Guess what on this Mori Seiki you don’t need to.

T0101, input, cycle start and it works. Well done Mrs Mitsubishi. Saved me milliseconds. Not to mention wearing out the semi colon key.

Compound Y Axis Mmmmm

Can never get my head around these. Because the bed is slanted when you move Y the X moves to compensate. Nothing to worry about there, well maybe not.

Ah what about when you need to clock in the rotary tools to get em bang on centre. This frustrated the holy shit out of me because when you move Y the fuckin X moves and when you use the measure function it gets it all wrong.

Now if you think I’m going to tell you some clever way to do this on this Mori Seiki SL 2500 Lathe, well you’re on a rocker because I don’t know.

You need someone clever for that kind of Mori Seiki Training.

I managed to get them correct but if I had to do it again I’d probably google it and then find this article. I recon in the manual it will say “frig about till you get it right”.

Mori Seiki Lathe Reference Return

You also need to reference the Y axis when X is away from zero return. Don’t forget to do the B Axis too.

People often ask me about the C axis but you don’t need to reference this until you connect it then you program G28 H0, H being incremental for C. Same on all lathes with a C axis.

Tool Measurement

This has a tool arm that pops out and one of those annoying ones that you have to plug in at the rear.

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The annoying one is for measuring the tools on the sub spindle. Before measuring these make sure you press the spindle 2 buttonMori Seiki

The offset will automatically go to 16 more than the tool for example T0101 will become T0117. Guess what I made a video.

I make no apologies for the quality of this video.

Why should I? You are not paying me you know.

Beware

It will jump to the correct position in the offset table. If you are in spindle 1 then it will go to T0101 which will be a big problem.

So select the correct spindle with these buttons.

It is great when the tool arm pops out, like in a Bond Movie where they have a secret room. I must admit when I first got to the machine I couldn’t remember where it  was.

Kept thinking “where the fuck is this thing”. Then it just popped out completely unannounced. Well I did press the button but you know what I mean. Again you have to fulfil all the conditions before it will show it’s pretty face. In the 1990’s you could fulfil the criteria for a £300,000 mortgage quicker than you could fulfil the conditions to whip this thing out.

This arm is a bit like your cock you can’t just whip it out anywhere. Difference is you don’t get arrested for getting the tool arm of a Mori Seiki out in public.

This is tricky, it’s another one of those “let’s really piss off the operator” type things.

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You must be at zero return in X and Z and there must be an R in the month. When I was a child they used to say that you couldn’t eat pork unless there was an R in the month. Strange, maybe it was because no one had a fridge, oh except for my mate, now they had shit loads of money, they even went to France for a holiday, oh and he wore Clarke’s shoes.

By the way the Y must also be at zero return too. Oh and the B axis.

Also on this Mori Seiki the door conditions have to be correct too, easiest is just close it.

Both front and rear work on the same principle.

Use this button to whip out the tool arm.

One Other Thing

Don’t move Y while the arm is out, it creates an absolute shit storm and you can’t move anything ever again.

Local Subroutine

This is a bit different to Fanuc.

M98 H1000 would jump to N1000 internally so you could dump this after the M30 in your program. Fanuc local sub routines.

Love it.

Turret Index Mori Seiki SL 2500

Select your tool and push here. Scorchingly fast and it’s a big heavy lump. Make sure tools are well clear or you will shit your white underpants. It’s fast. Oh and you can do it anywhere. I mean index the turret you fool not shitting yourself.

Mori Seiki

Don’t you think the logic is rather strange, you have all this safety stuff, “don’t do this don’t do that”

Index turret “no mate do wherever you please” feel free to smash your machine to bits, it’s all cool, just press here.

Driven Tools

You can have these in any station and there is a handy cover plate to protect the hole left when not in use.

Don’t forget to go to the setting screen to tell the machine what tool is where.

You don’t need to reverse tools or anything once you set this up.

Multi axis lathe

Just cursor to your tool and press the button below. It means you don’t need to reverse tools as it works out from here when to reverse them. Mori Seiki have your back covered here.

Setting Screen

In this screen you can do loads of shit.

  • Set chuck od or id holding. (That took some finding).
  • Void proximity switches (useful). These are the switches that tell the machine if the chuck is open or closed.
  • Set rotary tools as above.
  • Order a takeaway Pizza.

Editing

Some good features here

  1. Find and replace.
  2. Copy program.
  3. Rename program.
  4. Copy sections of program to a clip board.
  5. TOP BOTTOM buttons to quickly navigate program.
  6. Search function.
  7. Find and replace.
  8. Line Edit (See explanation)

Mori Seiki SL2500 Background Edit

This is really good. You can edit two programs at once . Switch between the two to copy and paste.

Simply press this CHANGE button to switch from one program to another.

Line Edit

You know when you love something but you can’t quite see a use for it. Well this control has a button you press and it takes the whole of the line you are on and places it down in the buffer.

You can then do what you want with it, anyway I like it. You could maybe use it to quickly duplicate a line.

Synchronise Spindles, C Axis

M480 will synchronise both spindles in C and reference them ready for use. This is great if you want to do a static pickup to the sub spindle. It will time the C axis together. A very useful little feature.

DATA Card

All these machines had a PCMCIA data card slot so you can save all your programs you can even run programs straight from it.

Buy an adaptor so you can use compact flash. Watch that it is not too big on memory as the machine may not recognise it.

You can connect it to your network too but I’ve never fucked with this bit so I can’t advise. Watch this space I’ll update when I do.

CAPS

Now I’m going to be honest here, which I rarely am, especially where cash is involved. But I was going to ignore the CAPS system on this control

In actual fact it’s quite useful. Mainly because it has half decent graphics so if you have one I suggest you use it.

Press the CAPS button as above then press GRAPH CHECK button, then press NC LIST and you get a list of your programs. Just input one and you get to use the graphics.

Verdict

As you would expect from an old Mori Seiki this machine can still hold tight tolerance and it’s not dog slow like some old machines.

The control panel is complex and tricky to navigate but this is a jumbo jet not a shopping trolley so there’s a lot to control.

It’s hard to imagine how you could make this simple.

Why do I always get the shopping trolley with the dicky wheel?

Another Moan

Modern machines are always a pain the arse to operate due to health and safety. There is no way around this and despite my moans I would never consider compromising any of this.

This control has great editing including stuff like copy and paste. Similar age Fanuc controls don’t have half of this shit so it’s not bad.

I love some of the little touches like being able to see the old figure when you just changed your offset.

Graphics are good again for the age of this beast. The CAPS system? Well not sure on that one. If I get more time to play with that a bit more then I’ll let you know.

Programming is very much Fanuc but has a few nice extra touches that make it easier.

Lets End On a Happy Note

No EOB needed in MDI (love that one).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Repeat Canned Cycle Using L and K

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Repeat Canned Cycle

Repeat Canned Cycle, here is a simple G81 canned cycle.

O001 (Drilling Programme)

T1 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200.
X60.
X70.
X80.
X90.
X100.
G80

G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

Repeat Canned Cycle

Now here is the same programme in incremental.

O001 (Drilling Programme)

T1 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200.
G91 X10.
X10.
X10.
X10.
X10.
G80 G90

G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

Both programs do the same thing now lets shorten the last one.

Repeat Canned Cycle L5 or K5

O001 (Drilling Programme Repeat Canned Cycle)

T1 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200.
G91 X10. L5
G80 G90

G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

(This would be K5 on a Fanuc control)

Now you have to admit that’s easy.

For all you “incremental deniers” come on now, this saves a lot of code.

And……

if the distance between the holes was 10.236 imagine having to add them all up.  Lets face it you couldn’t even work out the total cost of six tins of beans at 86p a tin.

Everything is so fuckin expensive these days. Have you noticed the price of vintage champagne?

Anyway that’s another argument for another time.

Repeat with No Repeat !!!

This article is about iteration. Which is just bullshit for “how many time you do it”.

No I don’t mean how many time you do “it”, grow up.

Authors Note to Himself

Must ditch some of these readers, so childish and read sexual innuendo into everything I write.

Continue if You are 18 or Over

In other word the L5 or K5 means do it 5 times.

You can also use L0 or K0 which means do it zero times (don’t do it).

” Come on Dave don’t be a twat, why tell the machine not to do something”

Right, first of all don’t call me Dave I fuckin hate it, my names David. So shut up and carry on reading.

Reasons to Not Do Something

  • You broke the tap in a hole and you want to skip it.
  • You just want the machine to remember the canned cycle but you don’t want to do the cycle yet.
  • Getting round corners without collision. Read this.
  • You can’t be arsed to get off the chair to pick up the TV remote (when your lazy boyfriend put it on the floor)
  • You want to use a sub programme

See Below

O001 (Drilling Programme)

T1 M6 ((Spot Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H1 M8

G81 G98 Z-5. R1. F200. L0 (Remember Cycle But Don’t Drill Yet)
M97 P500 (Go to drilling sub programme)
G80
G0 G53 Z0

T2 M6 ((10mm Drill)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H2 M8

G81 G98 Z-15. R1. F200. L0
M97 P500 (Go to drilling sub programme)
G80
G0 G53 Z0
G53 Y0
M30

N500 (Drilling Sub Programme)
X50. Y50.
X60.
X70.
X80.
X90.
X100.
M99

What this means is you set the canned cycle up so the control will know what you want to do. Because of the the L0 or K0 it does not actually drill a hole.

When it goes into the sub programme it’s business as usual and it drills all your holes.

All your positions are self contained in the sub programme.

Now it’s time for one of my famous, very boring stories.

Repeat Canned Cycle

Go here, this guys videos are way more interesting than this shit.

The Boring Story

Years ago when I worked at SP Engineering in Barwell. We used to make parts for knitting machines.

We made this part which was a massive plate covered in all different sized holes. Drilled tapped bored you name it. It was like that cheese that has all the holes in it. Well, not really but I paid for this picture and I want to use it.

We used to get a spot drill and just dotted the plate all over. We then put the part into inspection where they used a CMM (coordinate measuring machine) to measure all the positions of the dots.

 

 

The probe just drops neatly into the spot drilling dots.

Repeat Canned Cycle

Also because each set of holes was in a sub programme they could be reused once the positions were OK.

Oh and by the way contact CNC Training Centre for training on your CMM with PCDMIS

 

It is a useful method because once the sub programme is used you know all the positions are correct for any subsequent tools. It makes prove out much easier.

Putting any positions in the main programme would ruin the plot because you would have to check the first hole position for every tool.

Using L0 or K0 to Get Round Corners

This is a novel way to use L0 to get round the corner of a part. Not my idea I nicked it off the genius guys at Haas tip of the day.

My advise is don’t read this shit. Go to Haas Tip of the Day it’s way better. The guys are so polite and never swear.

Here Is a Nice Video In Case You Can’t Read

L0 for a Haas control K0 for a Fanuc control Repeat Canned Cycle.

Repeat Canned Cycle

 

 


Taking a Screen Shot Fanuc Control

Category : Fanuc Useful Stuff

To take a Screen Shot Fanuc, you will need to have either a data card installed or a USB

Screen Shot Fanuc

MDI

In MDI I/O channel needs to be set (4) data card or (17) memory stick

Screen Shot Fanuc

Stick the Card in (or the stick)

Press and hold the shift key for about 10 seconds. You will see the clock stop. That’s how you know it worked. Time will stand still at this point and all the people around you will appear static.

Try not to panic, the world didn’t end. Your control just needs to ponder a while and think about what you just did.

Stop The Clock

Once it’s done your clock wil start again (phew).

Screen Shot Fanuc

Then press CARDScreen Shot Fanuc

Screen will show what is on the data card

Screen Shot Fanuc

The BMP files are your screen shots. You can then view them on your laptop or PC.

Now I know you are saying “what is the fuckin is the use of that”

Well It’s just so that I can show off my knowledge.

Parameter

If this does  not work then you may need to alter parameter 3301 bit zero and bit 7 need to be 1

 

Should look like this to make it work.

Screen Shot Fanuc

A good use is when you are changing parameters. There’s nothing worse than changing a parameter and trashing a £100,000 machine. Help is at hand, luckily you did a screen shot before you changed the parameter and you can view it and change it back.

With this parameter it wont work because you need to switch it on!!!

Good luck with the massive dent in the guarding and the bent tool. No screen shot will fix that.

Screen capture Fanuc, thanks for reading.

 


Haas Super Mini Mill

Category : Haas Haas Mill News

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I’ve wanted to get my hands on a new Haas machine for a while. Really wanted to see what the new control was like.

Haas Mini Mill

Stiltz provided the machine and the victims for the training.

If you have read any of my articles you will know I have always had an affection for Haas machines. The first one I ever worked on being about 1994. At that time they were nothing short of ground breaking innovation.

Things like a built in airline and coolant wash-hose were not only innovative but really useful.

Coolant Hose (What Will You Do With This)

A machine that worked straight out of the box. Easy peasy tool-change. Handwheel to scroll through the program, people still get impressed by this today.

Programmable coolant nozzles, fuckin hell that was a game changer. Just move nozzle to a position and press an F key and it’s stored with the offset.

Macro at no extra cost (wow) some people wanted two grand for this (cost of a good family car in 1995)

Program restart still the best in the world, don’t get me started.

The New Machine David How Was It?

To start with on this one I didn’t like the interface but it does grow on you. You need to get used to using the touch screen. Access to some menus is a bit convoluted too.

This Haas Mini Mill has a 10k spindle and 30 tools.

Something I suddenly remembered about this model. Well you know when you get a cup of coffee and it’s in a tall tapered glass mug? You are thinking “nice big cup of coffee”. You take four big swigs n it’s gone, shit what happened. What happened is an optical illusion because the cup is tapered it’s actual capacity is that of a thimble.

It happens all the time everything comes in a great big box with loads of packaging and the actual item is minute.

Anyway try moving this machine to the end of it’s stroke in X. Fuckin hell what a disappointment I recon you can only move around about half the table. I mean great you can put a pretty big part on here. That’s great so long as you don’t want to machine it!!!

It definitely is not what you expect from the company that’s known for pragmatism. Anyway that does piss me off.

The way this machine is being used is running programs from a memory stick. At first I thought it was a bit crazy as the programs weren’t particularly big.

Anyway surprise surprise it works well. Just plug in and press load and it runs. But what about editing you ask. No problem you just do it. Same as normal.

Program restart, no problem works exactly the same as when running from memory.

VPS Haas Mini Mill

To be honest I used to avoid this like the plague but now on this Haas Mini Mill it’s actually quite useful really good graphical representation and easy to fill out boxes with plenty of explanation.

It’s gone from being pretty shit to not too bad.

Face milling, pocketing that kind of stuff, you can quickly create code n stuff in your program.

All in all a big improvement.

The Graphics

Sorry but I have to say this is incredibly disappointing. I think Haas are really missing a trick here. Experts correct me if I’m wrong but how hard would it be to put some real good program simulation graphics on this control?

I mean it’s like the fuckin 1980’s. I mean yes you can pick out typos and wildly wrong tool paths but that’s it.

At least you can speed it up and slow it down with the F3 and F4 keys which you can’t do on a Fanuc.

Haas

Coolant Level

You would think every machine would have a coolant gauge, sadly they don’t. Really useful.

Typical Haas.

I Am The Greatest (Almost)

I always recommend my trainees to watch every video I ever did and read all my articles. Worship me please I love it.

But hold on Haas Tip of The Day, fuckin awesome. This alone should be enough to make you buy a machine. This does people like me completely out of work. Haas USA keep up the good work.

Probing Haas Mini Mill

This machine has the all singing all dancing probing system. Personally if I was buying a machine this would be an absolute must.

WIPS system. Now if you even mention whips in my circle of very juvenile friends the conversation from then on is stuffed with childish CarryOnEsk comments. Never mind perhaps the guy at Haas who thought of it was genuinely naive. Enough said.

The interface for this is good, tool measurement is a doddle the actual setting of datums I think is a bit more convoluted than it used to be. Think they want you to use the touch screen.

Anyway not really grounds for complaint.

You can only set your Z offset as zero which I think is a bit shit. (Let me know if I’m wrong.). You can’t set the top of your part as Z1. to machine it off.

Haas Are Into Everything

I think Haas make their own everything now, they even sell a fan with the machine that blows off the table. I love these. Yes I know you already used one.

But…. does your machine have a nifty widget that just programs it for you? I think not sucker.

Haas Mini Mill

Just love it.

Do Haas do double glazing.

Even A Brush (That’s Insane)

The Thing With The Airline

There is like a little black hole in the windscreen of this Haas Mini Mill, you blast it with your airline and it cleans the screen from the inside. How cool is that?

 

Oven Ready Machining

On a Haas you get everything even a tool tightening whatsit.

And Even a Tool Tray

By the way if you buy the Super Dooper Mini Mill it comes with a mini bar, how cool is that.

Alarms What Alarms

This is another great idea. Any alarms come up in red so you can just go to it and then when you correct it, it’s no longer red.

Nice little touch

Haas Mini Mill

Fusion 360 & Haas Mini Mill

I believe the two companies are working together and it shows. My customer was using Fusion 360 and the flow was seamless. Post worked great without any tweaking to the code. My customer proved to me that my skills are outdated. Who needs to know this stupid G code shit. Just get a copy of Fusion 360 and away you go.

Bowling club, tea shops and pissing my pants here I come.

Insert Media File

Now I know they had this for a while but I haven’t used it so it’s new to me.

Stuffing pictures in the middle of your code is awesome. Think of the fun you can have. Leave a picture of your fat arse for the bloke on nights (maybe not). Anyway it’s great. Couldn’t get the video one to work (if you know how let me know). Who knows what I’ll put on that.

What a great idea. They even give you a quick way to get to the link.

Programmable Coolant Nozzles?

Haas are known for these as I mentioned earlier.

Sadly not on this one but I still liked the layout. Little tip here if you can afford through spindle coolant it’s always worth having on a new machine if you want to take advantage of modern tools. This one didn’t have it.

Conclusion Haas Mini Mill

Not bad, some improvements. In all fairness it’s hard to improve on something that is already pretty dam good. But please, please sort the fuckin graphics, it’s a big let-down.

Loads of stuff to love really enjoyed this one, in great company at Stilttz, nicest guys I ever worked with.

One quite serious point it still has that thing where it carries on after you wind the hand wheel too fast to catch up mmmm. Not on the bigger machines.

Third day they took the piss relentlessly. Everything stops for Pop-master on the radio, they loved my knowledge of the 1970’s. Being an old fart does have a few advantages.

If you need CNC Training get me in, you won’t learn much but at least you’ll get a good score on pop-master.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Citizen CNC Over-Travel

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This is a quick post about over-travel on a Citizen CNC sliding head machine. The Citizen range of CNC sliding head machines are very versatile.

It’s very easy to get the axis mixed up on the Citizen CNC. Fortunately it has these easy screens that show up when you select your axis

Citizen CNC

Just use your increment button to deicide how big you want your moves to be. Once you press the manual button it will turn yellow. Now press the increment you want.

Citizen CNC

You can over travel and sometimes this machine just wont move.

It just sits there pissing itself of laughing at your expense. I know because it happened to me, searched the manuals, searched the internet. Nothing absolutely jack shit.

I was just about to tell my customer that I was a complete failure and just retire which frankly I should have done years ago.

Anyway I stumbled upon this little beast.

Citizen CNC

Press him, it’s OK I promise. Yes it’s an over travel release button. Amazing.


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