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Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro

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Haas Spindle Warm Up MacroHaas Spindle Warm Up Macro

This Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro is something I created recently for the Macro training course that we offer at the CNC Training Centre. The course covers Macro Programming suitable for Mazak, Haas and Fanuc.

This course will be available online soon.

Please fill out the enquiry form on the right if you are interested.

I must admit I often think that where Macro programming is concerned, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I just think it’s more about a programmer’s ego than really getting good code.

This article gives a brief description of macro programming if you just want the Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro then jump to the end and copy it. I won’t be offended, honestly.

Be Careful What you Wish for.

Gratuitous use of macro programming , can be dangerous and very confusing to the operator using it.

If you don’t know what gratuitous means don’t worry neither do I, I just heard a bloke say it on the telly.

  • Using a macro can automate a regular task.
  • Families of parts can be grouped together in one programme.
  • All macros need to be “fool proofed” you must add alarms to protect from erroneous input.
  • Use parameters to lock and protect your macro programmes.
  • Macros can be aliased to G and M codes.
  • Don’t reinvent the wheel every day, just use a macro.
  • Don’t forget to check if you have the macro option on your machine it can be quite expensive to add on.

This macro (Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro) is for the warming up of the spindle on your Haas machine.

It does not take big leaps in speed so it’s smoother and more gradual.

Set the maximum rpm you want to warm up to and the time you want the warm up to run for. You also set the initial speed you want your spindle to start at from cold. Also give it the amount the speed increases per step.

It will calculate the difference between your start speed and your maximum speed. Then it divides this speed by the speed increment that you give it. From this it will know how many times to loop.

Once in the loop it uses the machine timer #3001. It zeros the timer then runs it for the calculated time each step.

Time needs to be set in milliseconds because that’s what the geeks use in these machine timers, so it multiplies by 60,000.

Ideally I suggest you alias it to an M code.

Alias what the fuck is an alias?

No it’s not like changing your name from Reginald Kenneth Dwight to Elton John no no it is a bit more sophisticated.

What does Alias mean.

It means you can access a programme using your own G code or M code.

Mazak Spindle Warm Up Macro

So for example see above. If you put 201 into parameter 91 when you programme a G201 it enters programme 9010. Like programming M98 P9010 or G65 P9010. With a G code you can pass arguments to the programme a bit like G81. In G81 you tell it the depth and rapid point these are the Z and the R values. These are called arguments. So now you can do the same with your very own G code.

G81 G98 Z-10. R1. F100.

Also for parameter 81 (see above) if you put 33 into parameter 81 when you programme M33 the control will jump into programme 9000. You cannot pass arguments when you use an M code. Best not to argue then, I say.

So for my Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro we will use M33 and alias it to programme 9000. So having done all this you can lock out programme 9000 so no one can even see it. (It can be our little secret). They will not be able to edit or delete it either.

All they need to know is that M33 will run the Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro.

M33 is aliased to O9000

A word about testing.

When you test your macro you don’t want your control to look ahead.

Why Does Your Programme Need to Look Ahead?

Let’s talk about cutter compensation:

Below is a tool path where the tool is compensated to the left. To machine the part without cutting into it the control would need to read in front.

Mazak Spindle Warm Up Macro

It moves up the left hand side so it needs to know where its going in advance, moving round the outside in single block it would stop here.

Mazak Spindle Warm Up Macro

If it were about to cancel compensation it would end here.

Mazak Spindle Warm Up Macro

If it were about to go left on the inside it would stop here.

Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro

They would all be the same Y position but in single block it would stop in three different places.

So this explains why the control needs to look ahead. Each move relies on the next one for it’s positioning.

When we write macro programmes and are testing them this look ahead can be a real pain in the arse. You see the system often will know the answer before you think it has seen the question.

Complicated? Read on, I meant to confuse you so it makes me look intelligent.

Please Explain

Right , what we do is to use a G code that will stop the system from looking ahead. We can then single block through our macro and check the calculations as we go.

When we are happy with the code we can let the system look ahead again by turning look ahead back on.

Although what you are doing may be very simple in terms of calculations a very simple mistake can really bugger things up.

Be very systematic in your approach and test each section of your macro as you go. As you are happy that each line works move on to the next.

Try my Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro below. Turn off the block look ahead and the single block restriction and check each variable as it changes. It will help you to understand how the Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro works.

One other thing, plan your macro before you start don’t get too excited and rush on. Keep a record of what variables you have used so you don’t accidentally use a variable twice. Things can get very messed up if you do.

Comment, comment, and more comments to say what the comments mean. You can’t have too many comments in a macro. The best approach is to imagine you were abducted by aliens. Will anyone understand your code if they don’t bring you back to Earth?

If you are like me and you have the memory of a goldfish then you will need them for yourself when you look back at this macro in years to come.

Check out this fantastic article on how to lay out your CNC code and comments.

“The code, give me the code?”  you ask.

OK OK.

So here is my Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro.

Hope it is useful to you.

PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS MACRO IF UNDER 18 OR OF A NERVOUS DISPOSITION

Mazak Spindle Warm Up Macro

Oh by the way if you get bored easily then don’t read all this shit. Just put the code in your machine and enjoy it with my compliments.

Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro

O09000 (Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro)

G103 P1 (NO BLOCK LOOK AHEAD)

#3004= 7 (OVERRIDE CONTROL NOT ALLOWED)
#100= 20. (TIME)
#101= #100 * 60000. (TIME MILLISECONDS)

#102= 500. (RPM FROM COLD)
#103= 7000. (MAX RPM)
#104= #103 – #102 (RPM INCREASE)

#105= 1. (RPM STEP)
#106= #104 / #105 (LOOP)
#107= #101 / #106 (DWELL)
M03 S#102 (Start spindle at initial speed)

WHILE [ #106 GT 0 ] DO1 (DO LOOP)
S#102 (START SPINDLE AT INCREASED RPM)
#3001= 0 (RESET INTERNAL TIMER TO ZERO)

WHILE [ #3001 LT #107 ] DO2
END2

#106= #106 – 1 (COUNTER DECREASES BY ONE)
#102= #102 + #105 (INCREASE SPEED BY STEP)
END1

#3004= 0 (OVERRIDE BACK ON)

G103 P0 (NO BLOCK LOOK AHEAD)

M30 

Very boring so what does it all mean? You ask.

Explanation of my Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro

O09000 (Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro)

G103 P1 (NO BLOCK LOOK AHEAD)
(This will stop block look ahead)

#3004= 7 (OVERRIDE CONTROL NOT ALLOWED)
(Set this to a 7 to stop override of speed.)

#100= 20. (TIME)
(Total time of warm up in minutes)

#101= #100 * 60000. (TIME MILLISECONDS)

#102= 500. (RPM FROM COLD)
(Spindle will start at 500 RPM)

#103= 7000. (MAX RPM)
(Maximum RPM you want the warm up to reach)

#104= #103 – #102 (RPM INCREASE)

#105= 1. (RPM STEP)
(This in the step used as the RPM increases)

#106= #104 / #105 (LOOP)
(Calculate the number of times it goes around the loop)

#107= #101 / #106 (DWELL)
(Dwell time after each speed increase)

M03 S#102 (Start spindle at initial speed)

WHILE [ #106 GT 0 ] DO1 (DO LOOP)
S#102 (START SPINDLE AT INCREASED RPM)
#3001= 0 (RESET INTERNAL TIMER TO ZERO)

Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro

WHILE [ #3001 LT #107 ] DO2
(TIMER COUNTS DOWN BY DWELL TIME)
END2

#106= #106 – 1 (COUNTER DECREASES BY ONE)
#102= #102 + #105 (INCREASE SPEED BY STEP)

END1

#3004= 0 (OVERRIDE BACK ON)
(Override works again.)

G103 P0 (BLOCK LOOK AHEAD)
(This will put block look ahead back on)

M30

Single Block

You can stop single block from working in a macro.

It is really annoying if you expect your spindle to warm up in 20 minutes. You come back having made tea cos you left the machine in single block.

“Shit” (expletive of your choice) “the machines been on single block and stopped on 500 rpm for 20 minutes”

#3003= 1 (SINGLE BLOCK OFF)

#3003= 0 (SINGLE BLOCK ON)

Stop single block is used in a G84 tapping cycle. There is a thought, imagine using single block when tapping. (You may need to think about that one)

I also have suppressed spindle override because you want the correct speed in a warm up programme. So your override control won’t work until it’s cancelled again at the end of the macro.

Again this is used in G84.

If you read the code and explanations above you’ll see how it works.

Haas Spindle Warm Up Macro

Oh and by the way here is a similar article for a Mazak machine.

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New CNC Machines, Explore the Old One First

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New CNC Machines

Before you buy any new CNC machines or computer systems checkout what you already have you might be surprised at what you can do. Breath life into the old beast.

Before buying New CNC Machines is there more you can do with the old one.
Mori Seiki Lathe

Investment

About 10 years ago my big gripe with companies when looking at increasing productivity and improving production methods, was that there was little investment in new technologies.

New CNC Machines represent a massive investment
Mazak Integrex Lathe

Now You Have New Machines

I think that now things are a bit different companies have invested in New CNC Machines and computer systems, although there is still room for improvement. Being the grumpy old ageing failed rock star that I am, my moan now is that the technologies that people have invested in are not being used to their maximum capabilities.

New CNC Machines


Bright Ideas

These are some of my suggestions and your MD will love the fact that they all cost little or no money:

  • Read the manuals on your CNC machine just the first few pages (not the boring health and safety shit, the next bit) bet you will learn something you didn’t know.

  • Now, about that probe in the carousel (covered in swarf, shit and coolant) that no one knows how to use. Learn to use it. Come on now there are loads of idiots like me posting free videos on this stuff. Once you use one I will guarantee your life will never be the same.

  • Check out the settings on your Haas machine (I can always get people excited about what these can do) look at the Haas tips n tricks page on their website. You will learn loads of stuff to impress your mates, not at the pub though please.

  • Make sure you are using the latest version of Edgecam (or your chosen CAM system). Edgecam and all software is evolving rapidly and you could be really missing out. If you have a software maintenance contract then you’re pouring money down the drain by not using the support.

  • Try to make a point of learning something new every day. (I am 86 and I still do) write them all in a book so you can look back and use your ideas.

That’s Not All

Check out the options on your machine. Maybe you have some really cool options you didn’t even know about. Might even be worth shelling out a few quid to buy some extras.

  • Rigid tapping.
  • Through spindle coolant.
  • Higher RPM.
  • Macro B.
  • Peck Tapping.
  • Extended work offsets.
  • Extra editing functions.

Watch These Videos

Copy a program on a Fanuc 18i

Copy and paste on Fanuc 18i

 

Oh and There’s More

If you really want to spend money I can help you with this I’ve already spent nearly all of mine. .

  1. Consider buying a touch probe, they save hours in setting time.
  2. Auto tool measurement probes can be used to set tools automatically. You will also be able to do in program checks for tool breakage etc.
  3. Add Macro B to your Haas or Fanuc control for loads of extra features.
  4. Add a speeder unit to increase maximum RPM.
  5. Consider adding a 4th axis to your vertical machining centre this will give loads of extra capacity and flexibility. Not cheap but well worth it.

But Most Of All Get Us To Train You

Please let me know how this goes, enter your comments below.

Contact me

Please contact me if you require:

  • CNC programming training.
  • Want to learn CNC programming.
  • Fanuc control training.
  • Yasnac programming training.
  • Any type of CNC course.
  • Fanuc training courses
  • CNC lathe training
  • Siemens Sinumerik
  • CNC Vertical Machining Centre training

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Taking a Screen Shot Fanuc Control

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To take a Screen Shot Fanuc, you will need to have either a data card installed or a USB

Screen Shot Fanuc

MDI

In MDI I/O channel needs to be set (4) data card or (17) memory stick

Screen Shot Fanuc

Stick the Card in (or the stick)

Press and hold the shift key for about 10 seconds. You will see the clock stop. That’s how you know it worked. Time will stand still at this point and all the people around you will appear static.

Try not to panic, the world didn’t end. Your control just needs to ponder a while and think about what you just did.

Stop The Clock

Once it’s done your clock wil start again (phew).

Screen Shot Fanuc

Then press CARDScreen Shot Fanuc

Screen will show what is on the data card

Screen Shot Fanuc

The BMP files are your screen shots. You can then view them on your laptop or PC.

Now I know you are saying “what is the fuckin is the use of that”

Well It’s just so that I can show off my knowledge.

Parameter

If this does  not work then you may need to alter parameter 3301 bit zero and bit 7 need to be 1

 

Should look like this to make it work.

Screen Shot Fanuc

A good use is when you are changing parameters. There’s nothing worse than changing a parameter and trashing a £100,000 machine. Help is at hand, luckily you did a screen shot before you changed the parameter and you can view it and change it back.

With this parameter it wont work because you need to switch it on!!!

Good luck with the massive dent in the guarding and the bent tool. No screen shot will fix that.

Screen capture Fanuc, thanks for reading.

 


Colchester Tornado CNC Lathe

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Colchester Tornado

Colchester Tornado

A visit to Halesowen to train on this beast. Nice simple two axis Colchester Tornado 90, this guys got six, mmmm.

This one has the following:

  • 12 station turret, just about enough.
  • Fanuc 21i T and it’s got Macro too, lovely.
  • Absolute encoders, useful no zero return required
  • 4000rpm spindle with a collet chuck
  • Bar-feeder (hydrafeed)
  • VDI turret these are great for accurately and quickly changing tools
  • This particular machine has a 42mm bar capacity.
Colchester Tornado
Available from Fortis Tools

VDI

No it’s not a sexually transmitted disease, it’s that funny round thing with a pattern on at the back of the tool.

If you have this you’ll love it because it means you can quickly change a complete tool holder and it repeats really accurately.

Halesowen West Midlands

I’ve not been to Halesowen since 1974 I actually worked as a singer in a nightclub there. The band was “Sweet Rain” I wouldn’t google that one if I was you, if you don’t want to see some dodgy porn movie.

There was certainly no sexual innuendo intended back in 1970 when that name was conceived.

That’s me back then

These dates are not accurate but the price of oil quadrupled in 1974 and there was a shortage. I remember there was a 50mph speed limit on the motorway meaning the 50 mile journey took much longer.

It takes even longer today but that’s another grumble for a different post from me.

I’m a bit bored with 70’s music now but it was great at the time. I remember what it was like to be a tall man, my platforms adding over a foot to my total height. Us little guys were very reluctant to let the platforms go.

I still wear mine on occasions where I want to impress, especially with my mates all being taller than me.

Colchester Tornado

I remember years ago trying to set up a CNC Machine shop on a budget and it was almost impossible. The cost of machines being massive and the second hand market almost non existent. I ended up buying a Beaver, stop sniggering you infantile.

I know it’s now a euphemism but this was 1981 and Beavers were known for their hard work and making dams.

Sorry am I digging myself deeper into this?

Anyway if there had have been good CNC machines around then at the right price I’d now be sunning myself on a Caribbean island instead of writing this gratuitous shit that nobody reads.

Don’t know what gratuitous means but it sounds impressive in that sentence you must admit.

These machines can certainly deliver, now they are not exactly the Carlos Alcaraz in terms of looks but unless you’re a CNC geek like me you wont be taking selfies with one of these to impress your mates with the company you keep.

They ooze pragmatism, much like my wife they get things done, she can plough a large field in an afternoon on a good day.

My Colchester Tornado doesn’t have a tool presetting arm like this one.

Colchester Tornado

That really is a crying shame but let’s not get too upset

Here’s a nice video on how to use cut and measure.

Definitely more time consuming than if you have a measurement arm. So it’s something to look out for if you are buying one of these machines.

Calibration of these arms is not too difficult either. I would suggest you get some one like me or a service engineer to do it for you the first time and watch carefully. You should be able to do it yourself next time.

There is no separate rapid override on this Colchester Tornado. It’s just one control. A bit strange and scarry in equal measures until you get used to it.

I actually got to like it in the end.

Colchester Tornado

No markings at all on ours, welcome to the world of old machines. Anyway it overrides your rapid and your feed rate all in one dial.

Just reember to leave it at 12 o’clock.

Absolute Encoders

Cool, very cool. When you switch this beast on you don’t need to zero return it. Just straight on with business.

What’s An Absolute Encoder David?

I haven’t had an alcoholic drink for nearly 20 years, that’s another story for another time. Anyway I still go out with my mates and they still get absolutely blind, dogshit, pissed.

Come 2am I am the only one who knows exactly where I am, in fact I know where I am at all times.

Well I’m the one with the absolute encoder.

Absolute encoders know where they are even when you switch off your machine. Therefore no need to zero return the axis.

New Shit (Colchester Tornado)

Yes always something new, I must admit it is amazing now a days how you can use shit in almost any context. In my days it was something confined to a toilet, but now it can mean whatever you want.

I personally use it everywhere but I have always loved swearing. My mum used to say “it’s not clever to swear”. Now listen kids I admit to not being clever but I must tell you swearing is great fun, long may it live.

Anyway “new shit” I learn something new on every machine I work on.

M51 means that M30 no longer stops and rewinds. M30 just rewinds and the machine will carry on.

It now thinks it’s an M99.

M52, you guessed it switches the M30 back to it’s normal self.

(Never seen that before, probably made up by Mr Colchester)

No G53….. What?

Not sure if this is an option but most newer machines I work on have it.

Fuck, this ain’t got it. Shame. Can I live without it?

Probably not, watch this space.

What is G53? You mean you don’t know? Shame on you.

No Copy n Paste

Editing is really painful on this beast as you can’t copy n paste at all and using brackets for comments is a mind numbing painful experience to be avoided at all cost. It does tend to piss one off but work with what you got boys.

Editing

So if you are buying a Colchester Tornado be prepared to take a trip back in time when it comes to the editing process.

Check what spec the control is. Not sure how you do this but I recon you just have to try these G  codes to see if they work.

If you know a more scientific way then please let me know. Anyway if this was my machine I would definitely be doing my major program surgery offline.

Nice touch

It has the normal feed-hold but it also has cycle hold.

This means you can halt the program and stop spindle then open the door and have a look around. Then when you close the door you can carry on. Great. The luxury.

How Simple.

You would be forgiven for thinking all CNC’s would do this, take it from me, and I’m old enough to remember when we had fish in the rivers instead of tampons and human excrement, they fuckin don’t.

Stuff I like on Colchester Tornado

Second hand these machines are great value.

Most of em have VDI turrets. (Look out for it)

Cycle hold can stop program for inspection .

If you press F2 you can rotate the turret in reverse to quickly get your tool.

Absolute encoders (no need to zero return)

Loads of em about so therefore easy to get fixed.

Easy to fix yourself.

4000rpm spindle.

Fanuc control, and yes I slagged it but everyone knows it, so if you buy one of these and you advertise for someone to use it they will flood your inbox.

Stuff I Don’t Like on Colchester Tornado

Fanuc control, shit to edit.

Rapid override scare the living bollocks out of me.

Buttons tend to wear down, might be worth investing in new ones.

Tend to be dirty but you can always clean it.

Old Fanuc controls have very small memories.

No tool arm, it’s an option so check if you have one.

Conclusion

This machine is not super precision, it’s not super fast although definitely not slow.

To make a car analogy it’s like buying an old ford car. You know you won’t need a second charge on your house in order to get it fixed and there are loads of em about.

Parked on the drive it might look a bit shit but never mind. My mate once said to me, sat behind the wheel of his new Mercedes “you still driving that old wardrobe”

No-one gets to insult my V70 Volvo. “Yes” was my reply “and when it breaks down I’ll put it in my wheelie bin with the rubbish and buy another one for one months payment on that Mercedes”

Because the Colchester Tornado is common there is plenty of knowledge and bits out there.

Old Fanuc Control? Well that means it’s easy to find someone to work it.

Easy to get training (just come to me)

The price means you can almost have one in the garage. My wife said no but you might have more luck.

 

 

 

 

 


CNC Crashes ** Think The Unthinkable

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CNC Crashes ** Think The Unthinkable

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Every CNC Setter, every CNC Operator, every CNC Programmer they all have a story about their worst CNC Crashes. I’ll tell you about mine in a minute. That’s not what this post is all about. Today I want to give you something to think about next time the unthinkable happens.

CNC Crashes

It all happened on a machine not unlike the one above, good old Mori Seiki work horse. I was so grateful of those bars on the door.

Centrifugal Force

An outward force on a body rotating about an axis, assumed equal and opposite to the centripetal force and postulated to account for the phenomena seen by an observer in the rotating body.

Bloody hell! Anyway what I did (like a bloody turkey) was to put a manual chuck inside a power chuck on a CNC Lathe. Worked great that was until the speed clamp stopped working.

G50 that is (oh and here is an explanation of that).

When the machine faced off the part in G96 (see explanation) the spindle accelerated up to its maximum RPM. This was about 3000 revs. Now when a power chuck gets up to that kind of speed the centrifugal force starts to force the jaws open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x14poOHTXlM

Well if you are holding a manual chuck in there you are in deep shit, and I was. The manual chuck came out ripping off the power chuck soft jaws. Oh and for good measure it took off the machine door. I have never been so scared since my hamster bit me when I was six years old.

People say to me all the time an expression I hate “human error”, mmm. Nope sorry that will not do. It actually was a catalogue of cockups.

  1. Although G50 is modal  you must have one at the beginning of every programme. Even if it’s not needed set it to the maximum RPM of the machine.
  2. Never never put a manual chuck inside a power chuck.
  3. Power chucks need regular servicing to maintain optimum pressure.
  4. Never stand right in front of the chuck, try to stay to one side of it.
  5. Never remove machine interlocks.
  6. Wear two pairs of underpants if you think you might mess yourself.

The Solution (CNC Crashes)

At the CNC Training Centre we offer to help companies make productivity improvements. When we do this I talk about ways to make things stick. That is what you need to do after a collision. Implement solutions so that this particular CNC Crash cannot be repeated.

When CNC Crashes Occur.

CNC Crashes

  1. Get everyone involved together and fully analyze what happened.
  2. Make lists of all the errors and mistakes.
  3. Make sure everyone knows it is not about apportioning blame.
  4. Make it very easy for people to be honest oh and don’t forget torture is illegal under the Geneva Convention..
  5. Look at the things you can change. If someone forgot to do something then how do you automatically remind him. Maybe you can put something in place so he does not need to remember.
  6. For everything that went wrong introduce a new rule or procedure to make sure it can never happen again.
  7. Oh by the way it’s never human error where CNC Crashes are involved.

So let’s look at my example.

  1. Put G50 in every programme on the first line. Go through all the old programmes and do this.
  2. Maintenance programme for chucks and dated sheets on the back of each machine.
  3. Training sessions to explain exactly how G50 and G96 work.
  4. Videos are excellent for training as they cannot be altered. Word of mouth is unreliable.
  5. Training sessions to explain about modal G codes.
  6. Be sure to create an environment where people can comfortably own up to making mistakes. (Not an easy one).
  7. Centrifugal force, what’s that all about?

Thanks for reading this article and don’t forget the most important thing is your personal safety and the safety of others.

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