Jumping Sections of Programme Using M99 and Block Skip

 

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Using Macro System Variables

Category : Macro New Stuff

Macro System Variables, I often get random emails from people asking me all sorts of questions.

I got one only the other day it began “Hi David, your articles are shit”

I don’t answer every email I get, but I try to answer when I think there is an appropriate response or I feel I can help.

Macro System Variables

Macro System Variables

Anyway someone called Neil from America (I think) asked me if I would create a tool setting macro. This involves using Macro System Variables

There is a really annoying thing on a Fanuc control (well actually there are quite a few). This one really pisses me off because I find myself making excuses for the control. I mean like I designed the fuckin thing.

For one, I am nowhere near clever enough and don’t even work for Fanuc. (I am available Mr. Fanuc, sorry I dissed your control)

To set a tool length it’s a really convoluted procedure. You first zero out the Z on the REL display.

You then bring down a tool and get the control to record the Z position by pressing Z then the soft key INP C.

Macro System Variables

Here’s a couple of videos showing you how.

Origin Z

Use INP C to Enter Offset

 

Once the Z has been set you can measure as many tools as you want. Just bring each tool down to the setting block and press Z then  INP C.

Macro System Variables

Here comes the problem…..

If you turn turn off the machine or, for some reason, you have to reference it again you will lose your REL Z position. You will now have to set it again.

Oh and if you don’t notice you’ll be in deep shit. (Your tool length will be wrong!!!)

There are ways around this by using a work offset, but to be honest it’s all a pain in the fuckin arse.

Oh and one other thing. Make sure you write the offset to the correct tool because you can write it to any tool.

Warning

Check the Z zero position each time before setting tools.

A good guide is to slap a good old steel rule or a tape measure against the tool for a rough check.

Macro System Variables to the Rescue

For years I have used a work around on Fanuc Controls. First of all you need to establish where your setting block is. In my case it’s a table probe.

Oh and you need macro (it is an option so if you don’t have it look away now.

To do this you need to note down your machine position in Z when you touch your block or setting probe.

This will later be stored in a variable to be used to calculate the tool length.

Try to set your block in a known position so that each time the Z figure is the same. You may even be able to fix it to the machines table. Don’t weld it, the boss won’t like it.

Read on to see how this variable can be written to automatically with a calibration programme.

The Programme…  OK Let’s Do This

  1. Bring the spindle nose down to touch your setting block. this is the value you will write into #102 (Mine says -500.877)
  2. Call your tool to be measured into the spindle in MDI (T06 M06;)
  3. Bring the tool down to the setting probe.
  4. Run the programme below.

O9001(Tool Measurement Macro)
1.  #100=#4120 (Grab Tool Number);
This will cause the machine to store the current tool number in #100

2. #101=#5023 (Store Machine Z Position);
This will cause the machine to store the current Z position in #101 

3. #102=-500.877 (Setting Block Z);
This is the figure you recorded from the position of the setting block.

4. #150=#102-#101 (Calculate Tool Length);
Now we can calculate the tool length by taking the known position from the current position.

This will give us a minus figure, we will reverse this in the code below.

5. #150=-#150 (Reverse Z Figure);

6. G90 G10 L10 P#100 R#150
This puts the tool length into the correct offset.

7. G28 G91 Z0 (Return Z To Zero Return);
8. G90;
M30;

More Explanation (Macro System Variables)

System variables know shit.

What I mean by this is that system variables contain information about the system. Some are read only and some you can write to, like the tool offsets for instance.

You can ask the system loads of stuff like.

  • What speed do you have stored?
  • What’s the tool in the spindle?
  • What position are you in?
  • What modal G codes do you have.
  • How old is my auntie Joan?
  • Do I have a fat arse?

These are all stored in special Macro System Variables except the last two.

You can read them and sometimes you can write to them. It’s not like that bloke at work who thinks he knows every fuckin thing. Sometimes he’ll listen, but most of the time he has to tell you.

No, no macro system variables follow special rules.

Anyway (The Explanation)

O9001(Tool Measurement Macro)

1.  #100=#4120 (Grab Tool Number);

2. #101=#5023 (Store Machine Z Position);

3. #102=-500.877 (Setting Block Z);

4. #150=#102-#101 (Calculate Tool Length);

5. #150=-#150 (Reverse Z Figure);

6. G90 G10 L10 P#100 R#150

7. G28 G91 Z0 (Return Z To Zero Return);
8. G90;
M99;

The first line 1. looks into system variable #4120 which contains the number of the current tool in the spindle.

You ask what this is and then put it in #100. Obviously you can’t write to this variable.

The next line 2. asks where the machine is in Z (Machine Position) #5023. Again you can’t write to this but you can store it in #101.

Line 3. stores the value that you measured early in #102. This is where your measuring block is from zero return.

In line 4. you take these values away from one another to give you the tool length

Macro System Variables

This ends up as a minus figure so we need to reverse it. We do this on line 5.

5. #150=-#150 (Reverse Z Figure);

6. G90 G10 L10 P#100 R#150

Line 6. is a standard G10 because we have L10 this means it writes to tool lengths. P is the tool number and R is the tool length.

I always stick a G90 at the front of this G10 in case some twat  leaves the machine in G91 in which case it will add to the existing tool length. (Oh dear total fuckin dog shit mayhem)

So You Want To Use Macro Like An Adult?

Lots of programmers use macro in a very complex and confusing way but I think that is the way they want it so you think “wow he must be a clever bastard.

In my opinion a good macro should have a really simple interface.

I’ll show you mine.

M200

Yep that’s all it is

M200 is aliased to my programme O9001 meaning if you run M200 it goes into my programme 9001 and returns.

Don’t forget you can run M200 in MDI too.

Read this article if you don’t know how to alias a macro to an M code or a G code.

More Macro System Variables

Now what we could also do is when we bring the spindle nose down to set the original Z figure, we could make the machine store this in #500 instead of my #102

500 series variables stay in the control even when it’s switched off. These variables are the cockroaches of macro programming (they survive anything).

In the event of a nuclear war the survivors would be as follows:

  • 500 system variables
  • Some cockroaches.
  • Ozzy Osbourne.
  • Keith Richards.
  • My mother in law.

The code for this is really simple. Just one line in fact,

All you need do is bring your spindle down to the setting block. Then run M300, which I have aliased to programme 9002

Or if you like just run programme 9002

O9002 (Calibrate Table Block);
#500=#5023 (Z Machine Position);
M30;

Word Of Caution

Don’t use M99 at the end of your Macro unless you are calling it with an M Code Alias. Otherwise it will be stuck in a never ending loop.

So Now It’s Simple

Bring the spindle down to setting block and run M300.

This sets #500. If the block is in the same place then this is not needed.

Call the tool you want to measure to the spindle in MDI otherwise it won’t be registered in #4120

T20 M06;

Bring the tool down to the block and run M200.

Or simply type M200 into MDI and run it.

This will then store the tool length in the correct offset.

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G98 and G99 It’s About Jumping Things

G98 and G99 It’s About Jumping Things

G98 and G99, a canned cycle is usually one line of code for example to drill a hole. This one line of code tells the machine all it needs to know about drilling my holes.

  •  Depth
  •  Feed-rate
  •  A point in the Z axis to rapid to before drilling
  •  Point to rapid back to after drilling
Sample program of G81 Drilling Cycle G98 and G99
G81 Drilling Cycle Sample Program G98 and G99

What happens then is each time you give the machine a new position it will drill one of these holes.

This is great because you don’t have to worry about what’s going to happen.

Each hole will be identical unless you change one of the parameters in the cycle like the Z depth or the feed-rate.

Therefore if on one hole you put a different Z depth that hole and all subsequent holes will be to the new depth.

Easy As ABC

So all in all it’s a really easy way to drill holes. You tell it what you want and then each time you give a position you get a hole. Then when you get sick of drilling holes you type in G80 and it stops drilling holes.

Machine says “OK this turkey doesn’t want anymore holes” so from now on when the machine moves to a position nothing happens.

Mitsubishi Drill In Action G98 and G99
Mitsubishi Drill In Action

Mitsubishi Carbide

There are loads of Canned Cycles I can’t be bothered to tell you about them all cos I’m going out tonight otherwise I would explain them all. If you scrat around this website for a while you’ll find them all.

Anyway they all do different shit.

They all work in the same way but with some variations.

Now the video at the bottom of the page is about G98 and G99.

G98 and G99 are in all of the drilling and tapping cycles. You have one or the other. You can even miss it out if you can’t be arsed with it.

OK so assuming I want it, what does it do?

You may well ask.

I know for a fact that some of you, and I won’t mention names, put this on the line with the canned cycle but you ain’t got a clue what it does. Maybe you don’t even put it in because you’re frightened of what it might do..

Now’s the time to learn or you will have it on your conscience for the rest of your life.

By the way if you don’t give a flying shit what it does then I wouldn’t waste anymore time reading this.

Here is a lovely video on kittens for you to watch. Off you go.

G98 and G99 How it works.

If you prefer  dogs read on.

  1. First of all the tool will rapid to what we call an initial point which the control remembers ready in case you decide to program G98. (This is the last Z move you made before the cycle is called).
  2. The tool will then rapid down close to the hole (this is called the R point). Don’t make this too far away or you will waste movement.
  3. Tool feeds down in Z to the Z depth at the feed-rate you specified.
  4. Then the tool will rapid back out of the hole. It can either rapid out to initial point (1) or the R point (2) depending on if you programmed G98 or G99.
Parts of the G81 drilling cycle with G98 and G99
How G81 works in action

Now if you program G99 it returns to the R point (2)
If you program G98 it returns to the initial point  (1)

OK why on earth would I want that? Maybe you wish you had chosen to watch the kittens video, but read on.

Well……. if you made that initial point 50mm above the job (about 2 inches) and the rapid point was 1mm above the job (.040 inches).

You could drill all your holes in G99 and the drill would each time return to 1mm (.040 inches) above the part.

If you add a clamp to jump over just put G98 on the hole before and it will jump to 50mm (2 inches) above the part. Oh and it misses the clamp.

Change back to G99 and it stays down returning to 1mm (0.040 inches) above the part.

Admit it, you like it don’t you?

Please don’t try this at home by the way.

Get it? So you eliminate wasted moves. Good init.

 

demonstration of G98 and G99 in action
G98 and G99 in Action

Oh and here is my video it explains how to use G98 and G99 to jump over clamps on a fixture.

The video is shit by the way but I had to learn (it’s been ages ago).

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Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle.

Let’s face it tapping on a CNC Machine can be a “right pain in the arse” as we say in the Midlands. But help is at hand. All you need is a bit of knowledge and the right equipment and it’s a dream, an absolute pleasure.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

What is Rigid Tapping?

You mean you didn’t know? Well the first step is admitting you didn’t know.

Rigid tapping means the tap can remain rigid throughout the tapping cycle. It can be held in a chuck just like an endmill or a drill. The machine spindle locks in with the feedrate just like when you are screw cutting. You can buy tapping heads specially for this. They are no different to holding in a chuck but you get to use collets for holding the tap. These make it easy to change and it can’t spin.

Oh and you don’t need to remeasure the tap if you replace it.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

So What Use Is This You Say

Well here are some of the advantages.

  1. No need for expensive tension and compression tapping heads.
  2. You can control the depth of the thread very accurately.
  3. It is ok to re-tap the same hole if it needs to be deeper.
  4. Peck Tapping of difficult materials is possible (Yes there is such a thing).
  5. Quicker set-up times.
  6. Feed is the same as the tap pitch.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

But There’s a Catch

It’s an option. Sorry you might not have it.

Most modern machines do have Rigid Tapping as standard but the older the machine the less likely it is that you will have it.

Sorry but you need to look in those boring manuals.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle, Fanuc, Haas, Mazak.

T06 M06 (M10 x 1.5 Tap)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S300 M03
G95 (Feed per rev)
G43 Z3. H06 M08
G84 G98 Z-15. R1. F1.5
X75.
X100.
G80

On some Fanuc controls you will need M29 for rigid tapping.

T06 M06 (M10 x 1.5 Tap)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50. S300 M03 (S300 M03 Optional)
G43 Z3. H06 M08
G95 (Feed per rev)
M29 S300
G84 G98 Z-15. R1. F1.5
X75.
X100.
G80
G94 (Feed per minute)

Just another interesting note (Read This G98 G99)

In the above cycle the tap will rapid down first to Z3. as in the G43 line. On beginning the cycle it will then rapid to what is know as the R Point. In this case R1. (one mm above the hole).

It will tap to a depth of 15 (Z-15). Depending on whether you programme G98 or G99 it will return to either the Z3. or the R1. before moving to the next position.

If you want to know more about G98 and G99 then read the article above.

Heidenhain Uses Cycle 207

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

 

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

Oh! And did You Know This??

G94 feed per minute (feed is in mm per minute).

G95 feed per rev (feed this amount every revolution)

These two G codes are your friend when you’re tapping or should I say G95 feed per rev is your friend.

Why?

When Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle on a Fanuc, Haas, Mazak or similar control it is best to use G95. This means that when you programme your G84 (Tapping Cycle) your feedrate is your pitch.

The really great thing here is that if you change the speed of the tap you don’t change the feed because it’s the pitch.

Bet you have made that mistake before???
You change the speed and forgot to change the feed. We all know what happened next.

How easy is that?

Oh and don’t forget to change back to G94 at the end of the tapping.

You will notice the Heidenhain does this automatically for you.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

On Machines Like The BMC 800 from Toshiba

This machine has the Tosnuc 888 control.

T06 M06 (M10 x 1.5 Tap)

G90 G0 G54 X50. Y50.
G43 Z3. H06 M08
G95 (Feed per rev)
M05
S300
M843 (Synchronous Rotation command)
G84 G98 Z-15. R1. F1.5
X75.
X100.
G80
M845 (Cancel Synchronous Rotation command)

When you don’t have rigid tapping you need a tapping head like this.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

Notice how it pulls out when the tap stops and reverses.

Ok So what’s Going on Here?

  1. Let’s tap a hole.
  2. Start spindle forward.
  3. Feed to depth at correct speed.
  4. Stop spindle (tap starts pulling out).
  5. Reverse spindle (tap pulls out a bit more).
  6. Start spindle (Needs to reach speed).
  7. Feed out of hole.

So the problem is that when the spindle stops, reverses and starts up everything goes wrong.

But this tension and compression tapping head can take up all the slack.

Not An Exact Science.

Definitely not, depths will vary. You will probably need to do some hand tapping too.

Tapping Clutches

These are special collets designed to slip at a certain torque. This allows you to get to depth without breaking the tap.

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle

You adjust the collar at the front to give the required torque.

You can’t use these on Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle because the last thing you want is for the tap to stop rotating.

Haas Have The Answer

Rigid Tapping G84 Canned Cycle, check out this great video on how to stop the machine half way through tapping.

Recover it without busting the tap!!

Ok So Let’s Talk About Peck Tapping

Fanuc (if you have the option) is G84.2 just programme your normal tapping cycle but replace G84 with G84.2 and add a Q value which is your pecking depth.

G84.2 G98 Z-15. Q5. R1. F1.5

Why would one want to peck tap?

  1. Holes that clog with swarf.
  2. Difficult materials.
  3. To impress visitors.

Don’t Have It? Don’t Despair You Don’t Need It if You have Rigid Tapping

If you programme this.

G84 G98 Z-5. R1. F1.5
Z-10.
Z-15.
Z-20.
G80

There you have it Peck Tapping.

So you move to a position and it taps a hole 5mm deep. Because you are in a canned cycle it will repeat the procedure at Z-10. Z-15. and Z-20.

How cool is that?

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CNC Milling G02 G03 to Mill a Full Circle

CNC Milling G02 G03

 

CNC Milling G02 G03

To produce a full circle on a Fanuc or Haas G code type programming system is really easy.

Last week I was training four very experienced programmers and I asked them how they would programme a full circle.

The answers they gave shocked me, I had to take out my hip flask and drink a large shot of brandy.

What they were doing was perfectly correct but definitely not the simplest way.

One said he broke the circle into two halves. One said he copied some code he already had in the machine. The other one said he got the bloke who did it in two halves to do it for him. Oh and the other one used I and J and X and Y.

OK so just imagine you want to mill internally around a 40mm diameter circle.

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CNC Milling G02 G03 to Produce a Full Circle, here’s the code.

First in two halves

G0 X0 Y0 S1500 M3
G43 Z3. H01 M8
G1 Z-5. F100.

G41 X20. Y0 D1 F200.    (Apply Cutter Compensation)
G3 X-20. R20.                   (First Half)
X20.                                     (Second Half)
G1 G40 X0 Y0                   (Cancel Cutter Compensation)

G0 G53 Z0

All in one complete with wasted Code

G1 G41 X20. Y0 D1 F200.
G3 X20. Y0  I-20. J0 (Mill Full Circle)
G1 G40 X0 Y0

But this is really all you need

G1 G41 X20. Y0 D1 F200.
G3 I-20.         (Mill Full Circle….. Sooo Simple)
G1 G40 X0 Y0

Remember that song by the Average white Band “Let’s Go round Again”? I used to love it.

Actually I still do, as an old twat I’m allowed to like this shit.

Ok let’s go round again. It’s so easy and it saves leaving a mark.

G1 G41 X20. Y0 D1 F200.
G3 I-20. (Mill Full Circle)
I-20.        (Lets go round again)
G1 G40 X0 Y0

Now if you have a Toshiba with Tosnuc control or Haas or maybe a Yasnac CNC control…..

CNC Milling G02 G03 to produce a full circle you just need this:

G13 D1 I20. F200. (Everything all in one)

                G13 (Counter Clockwise) G12 (Clockwise)
                D1 (Use offset 1)
                I20. (20mm Radius)

G13 does everything. It’s the an all inclusive holiday of circular milling except you don’t gain weight and you’re not pissed everyday.

How cool is that and you even get a tangential approach. At my age you’re glad of all the tangential approaches you can get.

No there is no sexual innuendo here it just means you approach the circle using a circular move. You sort of creep up when it’s not looking.

Know what I mean??

Here is a nice picture to demonstrate.

CNC Milling G02 G03

Think about it, why would we do this?

Well the older and more inaccurate your CNC machine is the more likely it is that your machine will leave a mark at the entry and exit point. This is also dependant on the material and the size of the cut you are using.

A quick workaround for this is to just go round the circle twice (let’s go round again). It very often does the trick.

CNC Milling G02 G03

Oh by the way if I saw a tangential move that big I would think it was a wasted move. (It’s just to demonstrate). You only need a short tangential move to do the job.

The easiest way to programme a tangential approach is like the ones above. Coming in from North, South, East or West on the compass.

Now look at this.

CNC Milling G02 G03

This is the best way, although it’s more difficult to programme.

I think it’s South West on a Compass?? 

 

 

The reason is that there is no axis change of direction and no animals are injured or hurt in any way during the process.

If you watch the movement above and watch carefully what the X axis is doing. It changes direction before it is in contact with the circle. And the same thing on the way out of cut with the Y axis.

Direction Change When Using G02 G03 to mill full circle

When milling a full circle each time an axis changes direction there is a chance you will be left with a visible mark on the circle. These points are North South West and East on a compass.

Watch below to see where these points are. If you have a new machine there should be no visible mark on this change of direction.

On an old machine this can be really noticeable and cause real problem.

CNC Milling G02 G03

 

Circular Motion and Skid Marks

If you have an old machine you will know what I mean. Those little annoying marks where the machine changes direction. If CNC Machines were underpants then these would be the skid marks.

For my American readers in the UK we call those annoying brown marks at the back of your underwear skid marks. I don’t think you get them in America.

 

I have been working on a 12 year old Mazak Horizontal machine recently and was amazed at just how good a circle it produced. It beats the shit out of using a reamer. Oh and you can easily adjust the size with your D offset.

CNC Milling G02 G03

Just a note. If you do use circular milling to produce a bore just remember that if your cutter is not parallel then your bore won’t be either. So don’t use that crappy old re-ground cutter. Try n get the boss to buy you a shiny new one.

 

CNC Milling G02 G03

oh and just one other thing………..

Measure the bore at the top and the bottom.

Simple Full Circle Programme

G1 G41 X20. Y0 D1 F200.
G3 I-20.     
G1 G40 X0 Y0

There are actually four choices which produce four totally different circles.

And potentially a scrap part. So use those machine graphics to check your code if you got em!!

CNC Milling G02 G03

G3 I-20.    (The one on the left and the one we used)

G3 I20.     (The one on the right)

G3 J20.    (The top one)

G3 J-20.  (The bottom one)

Here They Are In Action

CNC Milling G02 G03

 

CNC Milling G02 G03

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