Tool Offset Measure Button Haas, Useful or Relic?

Tool Offset Measure Button Haas, Useful or Relic?

Tool Offset Measure Button on a Haas Machines, Useful or Relic?

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This article is about the Tool Offset Measure button on a Haas machine.

Tool Offset Measure

I first worked on Haas Machines around 1996. The most amazing thing about Haas machines back then was the price. They were cheap, very cheap. At that time the cheapest CNC Machines were like the cost of a diamond studded jockstrap. But the Haas, well as I said it was cheap.

Everyone thought they were made in some far flung country by Santa’s Elves being paid the minimum wage and fed on reindeer shit.

Actually they weren’t. The reason I’m told they were so inexpensive was because they kept the specification of each machine the same. This made them simpler and cheaper to produce.

I fell in love with those early machines and they certainly earned their keep. The control was like a Fanuc that had been given steroids and a rocket up it’s arse for good measure.

Giving People What They Wanted

It was like someone had heard all my criticisms of CNC Machines and granted my wishes

The way that we trained people in those days was to use the tool offset measure button.

What you did was you touched each tool on the top of the component and pressed this button.

(Sorry about the shit picture couldn’t be arsed to find a better one)

It duly recorded the offset value for you.

So what you are doing is recording the distance from the end of the tool at its zero return position to the top of the workpiece.

Tool Offset Measure

This gives you a minus figure the size of a compulsive gamblers bank balance.

Problems

Ok so this works well but there are two problems. Actually no there a three.

  1. You can’t use a tool presetter.
  2. You can’t roughly check this figure by getting a ruler and checking the tool length.
  3. (And this is the big one) when you set a new job you need to do it all again.

Now I could be being really stupid here, and if you know me you are probably saying “well he is a bit of a dick”. Anyway from that day on I’ve avoided this button like Donald Trump avoids wind machines.

A couple of weeks back, when my restraining order was lifted, I was allowed back on a Haas machine to do some training.

They say you learn something new every day well this day I was about to learn about setting 64.

Tool Offset Measure

What this setting does is it allows for whatever work offset you are in when you press the Tool Offset Measure button.

Tool Offset Measure

So what you do is you get your setting block and you touch your spindle nose on it (I used a 6 inch block of slips).

Tool Offset Measure

One of these is even better.

Tool Offset Measure

Then set this in a work offset that you don’t use like G59.

Offset Is Actual Tool Length

  • So when you want to measure a tool.
  • Call out G59 in MDI.
  • Touch the tool on the top of the block.

Tool Offset Measure

Press the button

Tool Offset Measure

And guess what you get the actual tool length. Tool Offset Measure

If you use a tool presetter just tweak the G59 Z figure until it ties in exactly with your tool presetter.

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2 Comments

Youri JUTEAU

August 4, 2021 at 8:43 pm

Is the button call the O9001 program automatically because I don’t see on the controller where I put the program 9001 in the parameters page.

Also why you need to be in the G59 before calling if you can access the value of the Work-offset Z with the correct variable #

Oliver Norris

October 19, 2021 at 6:10 pm

Thank you for this post. It has been very useful in getting all of my real tool lengths into my tool offset table.

What I’m struggling with now is how to set my work offset Z height… I ideally would like to use my 3D-taster indicator to touch the top of the job (or indeed any tool, touch top of job) and hit part zero set but currently when I do that I also have to subtract the tool length from the work offset value.

I hope what I’m asking for is possible because i do believe it is the widely used method across the industry. If I’m having to enter a 6 digit number every time I set a Z offset I can see a crash will happen eventually/imminently.

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